Victor III

[bwi 971]

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grtz,
bart

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

As I didn't want to hack Tim's Golf build any longer so I started a new Topic

Gents, the development of a 1/96 VICTOR III has started.
Streaming the WWW for pictures and information about the sub for two weeks, got what I required so first step is has been taken.

Going to finish the AKULA first before I start crafting the VICTOR III.

In between I will process what I got on information.




Ok deal....suggest you jump in when I start laying up those hulls.

Rudders and planes are mine, the root of them will be part of the tail piece.
If you need pictures of the props or other parts just jell, I gathered a few now.

Grtz,
Bart

OK, you're lead-man on this, Bart. I follow.

Yeah. Finish that AKULA, pal!

What can I do to help with lay-up, advice? I've never been short on that.

Other than pie-fights and hissy-fits between the two of us lets work to keep our activity on the forum so these other poor slobs can suffer along with us. By the way: I have no heart-burn on how many forums you submit this stuff to; the more, the merrier.

OK, do your control surfaces first and send me parts so I can match your control surfaces to the tail-piece vertical and horizontal stabilizers I do here. Are you going to articulate (variable camber) the bow planes? And send me a length between perpendiculars (datum lines) so I can make my working copies of the plans.

David

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I need to make my copies of the loaned VICTOR-3 drawing so I can return them to Will. Give me identified datum lines on a specific profile drawing and how many inches between the datum points, Bart. That way we're working to the exact same size. That done I'll have to-scale drawings in hand and I can start work.

Damn, you will be that distressing little voice in my head the whole build won't you

Kevin Rimrodt down-loaded his file on the VICTOR-3 to my machine. I'll blast you that info today -- some might be new to you.

Perfect

I'll start in on the tandem propellers (and while I'm at it, why not also task me with the single skew-back wheel we see on some of those boats?) I assume that the Hogner-stem stern transitioned at its after end from a curve to a cylindrical form, resulting in a propeller hub with no taper (the only tapper would be in the removable dunce-cap vortex attenuator). That would permit two identical propellers to be mounted in tandem along the same shaft, such as seen on the 414 boat.

Show off

This is going to be fun!

Yes it will

grtz,
Bart (AKA captain slow)

[SSBN659]

No hurry on the drawings, I'm working on a Kilo and have a long way to go yet.

"Will" Rogers
SSBN659

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

General the drawings match the sub shape damn good IMO.....however the details do not match the sub we want to make (hello everybody my name is Bart and I'm a detail nut).

Btw check your inbox I sent you an e-mail yesterday

grtz,
bart

Yes, we can get started on basic structures -- details down the road. Glad we're on the same page (the drawings).

Got your e-mail. I'll blast you comments later today (the shop is calling my name, I must obey!).

I need to make my copies of the loaned VICTOR-3 drawing so I can return them to Will. Give me identified datum lines on a specific profile drawing and how many inches between the datum points, Bart. That way we're working to the exact same size. That done I'll have to-scale drawings in hand and I can start work.

Kevin Rimrodt down-loaded his file on the VICTOR-3 to my machine. I'll blast you that info today -- some might be new to you.

I'll start in on the tandem propellers (and while I'm at it, why not also task me with the single skew-back wheel we see on some of those boats?) I assume that the Hogner-stem stern transitioned at its after end from a curve to a cylindrical form, resulting in a propeller hub with no taper (the only tapper would be in the removable dunce-cap vortex attenuator). That would permit two identical propellers to be mounted in tandem along the same shaft, such as seen on the 414 boat.

This is going to be fun!

David
The Horrible

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You like those drawings? Once we are in accord I'll scale my drawings to the size of yours. (Thanks again, Will).

Standing by (I got plenty of stuff on my plate anyway). Kevin's got a ton of good stuff on this boat -- this guys like you: a complete nut-job when it comes to details.

David

General the drawings match the sub shape damn good IMO.....however the details do not match the sub we want to make (hello everybody my name is Bart and I'm a detail nut).

Btw check your inbox I sent you an e-mail yesterday

grtz,
bart

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I'm back......yes we have the same plans David.
I'm coming back on the dimensions soon.
Had a to deal with family wise.

Grtz,
Bart

I fully understand the family thing, Bart. First things, first.

You like those drawings? Once we are in accord I'll scale my drawings to the size of yours. (Thanks again, Will).

Standing by (I got plenty of stuff on my plate anyway). Kevin's got a ton of good stuff on this boat -- this guys like you: a complete nut-job when it comes to details.

David

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And a belated thank-you, Will for the research material. Bart: are we on the same page as far as plans go?

David

I'm back......yes we have the same plans David.
I'm coming back on the dimensions soon.
Had a to deal with family wise.

Grtz,
Bart

[Trident]

Hi Bart,
Some time ago wile talking to Dave, we talked about what boats were (my words) "attractive" looking subjects (his words) "SEXY". The Victor III came to the top of the list. I started collecting research on the class. Since you will be collaborating with Dave on this subject I will turn over a copy of my research file to Dave in the next few days so he can look through it and fill in what you may not have found yet. Looking forward to seeing this project develop.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I am really looking forward to watching this build because I know I'll learn a lot from it. Let's go guys.

"Will" Rogers
SSBN659

And a belated thank-you, Will for the research material. Bart: are we on the same page as far as plans go?

David

[SSBN659]

I am really looking forward to watching this build because I know I'll learn a lot from it. Let's go guys.

"Will" Rogers
SSBN659

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

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grtz,
Bart

Got it. Excellent sleuthing, Bart. K-414 it is.

David

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grtz,
Bart

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Hey, Bart: would you post some pictures of your primary VICTOR-3 document (working plan). I want to see if you and I are on the same page. The drawings I just got don't indicate source or originator.

And what over-all length are we looking at? Do we put the after perpendicular (datum line) at the base of the propeller hub or at the aftermost tip of the dunce-cap (vortex attenuator)?

David

David,

I will sent you a document with my all the 1/1 dimensions that I found during my research, I even found the LOA difference between the single and tandem prop subs...MIB says hi.

I have also recorded the scale dimensions in mm and inch in the same document.
The document contains also notes and observations for me as a reference when building, and a narrow down (don’t know how I have to fraise it) to the 1/1 scale reference sub to be used for making the model.

Give me some time till the end of next weekend I will have finished the sketch of the sub by then with dimensions indicated regarding the propeller boss/hub diameter and hull length measured from the datum line.
I took the boss/hub base as the datum line. It is easier and requires less calculations when developing the hull.

I will send the document from my personal e-mail it starts with “bwi” if you want to find it in your probably overflowed mailbox.

Grtz,
Bart

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Thank you, William! Beautiful.

Hey, Bart: would you post some pictures of your primary VICTOR-3 document (working plan). I want to see if you and I are on the same page. The drawings I just got don't indicate source or originator.

And what over-all length are we looking at? Do we put the after perpendicular (datum line) at the base of the propeller hub or at the aftermost tip of the dunce-cap (vortex attenuator)?

David