Tom Chalfant - Bronco Type XXIII

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

hey! ... all of you:

Stop with the, 'that-a-boy', and the 'Gee ... nice work', posts. Waste of band-width, and you're ****ing me off!

Don't make me come over there!!!!!!

M

[crazygary]

Excellent info there, Tom!!
Cultural enrichment for sure.
Thanks for the post!

[trout]

Thank you Warpatroller, great information.

Sublime, there were two that were in service in the 1960's. U 2367 was raised in the mid 50's and renumbered S 171 called U-Hecht and the other was U 2365 also raised in the mid 50's and was renumbered S 170 and called U-Hai. The Hai sunk in 1967, killing all but one crew member and the Hecht was decommissioned a year later. These two subs were modified when made fit to sail. They were extended about 14' to accommodate new engines and equipment. Later they modified the sail to one that is sloping on the aft end. The other Type XXIIIs that survived the war, I am not sure the latest they ran until. The Sea Dragon that Warpatroller mentioned, I need to research.

[Sublime]

Navigation lights on XXIII - Red on port side, Green on starboard side, White on rear. Just like other Uboats.. Front boats had the bulbs removed, so no functional lights on a front boat..

Have no idea what Bronco was doing with their Orange and Blue stuff in the instructions.. Maybe that was on the XXIII boat, renamed "Sea Dragon", that was given to China, by the British, after the war..

Your "Black" XXIII photo of U2329, that you posted earlier, is most likely just dark grey, not black. That photo was taken, at Loch Ryan, off the coast of Scotland. U2329 was among the Operation Deadlight casualties. Any time you see the boat numbers painted on the tower like that, it means the boat is no longer in German hands. It was tagged for orderly disposal by the Brits.

U2329 was one of the 6 boats to actually go on a war patrol..

How long was the last Type XXIII still in service? Isn't a flashing "Orange/Amber" light now used to indicate a submarine underway? The blue could be describing a "law enforcement" flashing light? Was this thing used to patrol littoral areas for the Chinese Coast Guard or something. I've been noticing these submariners can really be sneaky. While checking various pictures of submarines, I sometimes noticed a dual radar system. One is usually the military system and then the other is appears to be a generic commercial nav radar found on yachts and the like. Makes one think...hmmm?

[Warpatroller]

Just a bump. Any information on navigation lights. Did the Type XXIII use standard navigation lights? If not what was this they were using?
Here is what the instructions say:
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Just a note. I could not upload pictures using the standard way, I had to use basic uploader. Not sure if others are having the same issue or not.

Navigation lights on XXIII - Red on port side, Green on starboard side, White on rear. Just like other Uboats.. Front boats had the bulbs removed, so no functional lights on a front boat..

Have no idea what Bronco was doing with their Orange and Blue stuff in the instructions.. Maybe that was on the XXIII boat, renamed "Sea Dragon", that was given to China, by the British, after the war..

Your "Black" XXIII photo of U2329, that you posted earlier, is most likely just dark grey, not black. That photo was taken, at Loch Ryan, off the coast of Scotland. U2329 was among the Operation Deadlight casualties. Any time you see the boat numbers painted on the tower like that, it means the boat is no longer in German hands. It was tagged for orderly disposal by the Brits.

U2329 was one of the 6 boats to actually go on a war patrol..

[trout]

Hopefully I will get a chance to finish the weld lines this weekend. So no thoughts on lights..... I will go with red/green then.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Yeah, me too

[trout]

Mike,
The standard I referred to was using the Select Files button in the Insert Image pop up. It is not working. The Basic Uploader is circled in yellow.

It may be a flash/java issue on the server needing to be updated.....Flash and Java both have had a ton of updates.
As far as the double postings, it is a known issue with vBulletin 4.2.2 and so is the posting error. vBulletin forum has suggestions for possible work arounds on these.

[Slats]

Yep me too - problem is it no longer uploads multiple photos you need to do it 1 at a time. Takes quit a while too. Other problem is frequently you get error messages after you make a post. The post you make happens but it gives you some false message that you posted too fast after your last post etc. A lot of the double posts we are seeing from people like Merriman - could it be they are getting an error message and then posting again thinking their original posting failed?

[Kazzer]

Just a note. I could not upload pictures using the standard way, I had to use basic uploader. Not sure if others are having the same issue or not.

Basic Uploader? Standard way? Not sure I understand the problem here.

[trout]

Just a bump. Any information on navigation lights. Did the Type XXIII use standard navigation lights? If not what was this they were using?
Here is what the instructions say:


Just a note. I could not upload pictures using the standard way, I had to use basic uploader. Not sure if others are having the same issue or not.

[trout]

Agreed, but I doubt they would repaint it, would they?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

the hand-painted hull numbers and uniforms on deck suggest this is a British war-prize.

M

[trout]

Here is a photo that shows an antenna cable attached like the Bronco has it. Oh the choices.....

Traditional navigation lights have red on the port side and green on the starboard side, what is the blue light? Does the XXIII not use traditional Navigation lights?
Also, this sub looks black, were they painted black?

[trout]

Al,
Thank you for the kind words. You are always the gentleman.
Peace,
tom