WFLY 6 channel receiver won't fit in type VII S/D

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  • pjdog
    Commander
    • Apr 2009
    • 302

    #1

    WFLY 6 channel receiver won't fit in type VII S/D

    What's the secret. I can't get the WFLY 6 channel receiver to fit in the
    type VII S/D. I've tried every position for the receiver and it just comes out to be 1/4 to long to fit. If the servo's plugged into the top of the receiver it would go but the servos plug into the end? Help!
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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
    Moderator

    • Aug 2008
    • 13404

    #2
    Originally posted by pjdog
    What's the secret. I can't get the WFLY 6 channel receiver to fit in the
    type VII S/D. I've tried every position for the receiver and it just comes out to be 1/4 to long to fit. If the servo's plugged into the top of the receiver it would go but the servos plug into the end? Help!
    Yank that dude out of its plastic case. Wrap in heat-shrink to prevent shorting across the face of the board and you're in like Flint.

    David,
    Who is John Galt?

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    • pjdog
      Commander
      • Apr 2009
      • 302

      #3
      snort in type VII

      If I do the heat shrink thing to the receiver, with space being at such a premium, is a snort going to fit in there or should I give that idea up?

      jack

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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
        Moderator

        • Aug 2008
        • 13404

        #4
        Originally posted by pjdog
        If I do the heat shrink thing to the receiver, with space being at such a premium, is a snort going to fit in there or should I give that idea up?

        jack

        Jack,

        The receiver goes atop the forward device shelf, the LPB with attached switch below that.

        You would be better served, if you find the servos twitching with the transmitter off, to use the more selective (and smaller) Sombra 8 or 6 channel receiver instead of the WFly unit.
        SL-8 Receiver (Synthesized, 72/75MHz)

        A synthesized ultra-light, ultra-small 8-channel receiver with advanced DSP signal detection, noise control and glitch suppression algorithms.

        Dual conversion, full range. Ultra narrowband (5kHz or better)
        Excellent sensitivity and IP3 performance
        Synthesized "crystal-less" operation
        Frequency selection through a modular, extremely rugged, reliable and easy to use programmer utilizing Sombra Labs' patented "1-Click"(TM) programming technology or our latest AFS ( Automatic Frequency Scanning) technology!
        AFS locks on the transmitter in less than 30seconds no matter what transmitter channel is used (for both 72MHz and 75MHz)!
        Three user selectable and programmable failsafe modes
        Compatible with most of the FM/PPM transmitters
        Automatic positive/negative transmitter shift detection
        Fully programmable servo pin assignments, any servo pin can be made to output any channel from Channel 1 to Channel 16
        Ability to store two user "Servopin-to-Channel" assignments
        Cascade mode: Two SL-8's can be cascaded together for up to 16-channel operation
        SL-8 will seamlessly cover 72MHz (Air), 75MHz (Surface) bands; no changes required to the product
        Most advanced DSP signal detection, noise control and glitch suppression algorithms
        Ability to turn the DSP filtering on or off using the Sombra programmer
        Fully FCC compliant.
        Dimensions: approx. 37mm x 20mm x 12mm (Vertical pin version)
        Horizontal and Vertical pin configurations
        Weight: approx. 9gms with full length antenna
        Designed and manufactured in North America




        David,
        Who is John Galt?

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        • pjdog
          Commander
          • Apr 2009
          • 302

          #5
          WFLY 6 channel Receiver

          Thanks David. It sounds like the Sombra 6 or 8 verticle pin version would solve my problem. I hope Caswell has some in stock so I will not have a long wait. I can always use the WFLY 6 in the Gato. Thanks again.

          Jack

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          • Kazzer
            *********
            • Aug 2008
            • 2850

            #6
            Originally posted by pjdog
            Thanks David. It sounds like the Sombra 6 or 8 verticle pin version would solve my problem. I hope Caswell has some in stock so I will not have a long wait. I can always use the WFLY 6 in the Gato. Thanks again.

            Jack

            I'm pretty sure we have both in stock!
            Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
              Moderator

              • Aug 2008
              • 13404

              #7
              Originally posted by pjdog
              Thanks David. It sounds like the Sombra 6 or 8 verticle pin version would solve my problem. I hope Caswell has some in stock so I will not have a long wait. I can always use the WFLY 6 in the Gato. Thanks again.

              Jack
              The WFly r/c system is dirt cheap. And there's a reason: The transmitter and receiver work just fine in any plane or boat of 'conventional' complexity, because the components that make up the transmitter and receiver are bought from the lowest bidder, and the engineer who designed the receiver graduated last in his/her class from MIT (Morocco Institute of Technology).

              In the very special, 'electronically noisy' environment of a SD, where the close proximity of wires, motors, and specialized electronic devices (all sending along weak, though detectable RF signals and feed-back) the WFly receiver is not 'selective' enough. The WFly receiver is prone to swamping in the no-carrier condition (transmitter signal lost or transmitter off) and starts responding to the ever present electronic noise (some feed-back, some device generated) -- evidenced as servo dancing upon loss of transmitted signal ... the WFly receiver is (in some situations) too dumb to know static from signal.

              Bottom line: The Sombra receiver is a much better product than the WFly receiver, and is the choice for use in SD's containing closely packaged electronic/electrical devices.

              ... and we want your money. Now. Pony up, pal.

              (But, some of the time the WFly receiver can handle the job. So, don't spring for the little yellow box till you know your WFly receiver can't handle the no-signal condition without letting things go spastic).

              David,
              Who is John Galt?

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              • pjdog
                Commander
                • Apr 2009
                • 302

                #8
                newbies

                When your new to the sub hobby the learning curve is big. I've had cars, lots of planes even a tank. But subs are different. Plus there are no parts available in my little town. So I'm dependant on mail order (internet). That was lots of information you have supplied. I will need another receiver anyway for the Gato that's also under construction so I'll just (pony up) Monday and order a new reveiver. If the receiver should go on top of the servo platform I'm wondering which to order. The top pin or side pin? The Somdra is smaller anyway but the space available in the type VII is really limited. Thanks.

                Jack

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                • pjdog
                  Commander
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 302

                  #9
                  Sombra programmer

                  When looking to order the Sombra receiver I saw the Sombra shadow programmer. It appears that I may also need the shadow programmer (sooner or later)? Probably be a good idea to get it now?

                  Jack

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                  • Kazzer
                    *********
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2850

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pjdog
                    When looking to order the Sombra receiver I saw the Sombra shadow programmer. It appears that I may also need the shadow programmer (sooner or later)? Probably be a good idea to get it now?

                    Jack

                    We have 'em, but they aren't required to set up the Wfly radio. Just plug in the loop (supplied)
                    Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13404

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pjdog
                      When looking to order the Sombra receiver I saw the Sombra shadow programmer. It appears that I may also need the shadow programmer (sooner or later)? Probably be a good idea to get it now?

                      Jack
                      I don't bother with that. Just the shorting pin needed to set receiver frequency. And get the one with the pins on the side, not the top.

                      David,
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • pjdog
                        Commander
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 302

                        #12
                        Sombra receiver

                        Just got the Sombra receiver today (6/8). It fits in the type VII S/D like it was made for it. Every thing is working great. I see why Caswell recommends the Sombra receiver. Much smaller. Now for the snort. It looks really tight but I do my best.

                        Jack

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                        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          Moderator

                          • Aug 2008
                          • 13404

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pjdog
                          Just got the Sombra receiver today (6/8). It fits in the type VII S/D like it was made for it. Every thing is working great. I see why Caswell recommends the Sombra receiver. Much smaller. Now for the snort. It looks really tight but I do my best.

                          Jack
                          Well ... to be accurate: the space in the SD was designed for that neat little receiver.

                          David,
                          Who is John Galt?

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                          • pjdog
                            Commander
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 302

                            #14
                            Great little receiver

                            David:

                            You can tell at one look. It's packed in there like a sardine along with the snort but everything fits and works. A great receiver. Easy to set up with the little pluggy thing. The admiral here say's I can say 'little pluggy thing'. It's a "AFS Connector", goes in channel 8. It found the frequency right off. Not much further to go and it will be a submarine at last. The snort works great. Had no trouble with the black hose for the snort. Took 1/8 brass, tapered the end, heated it, slipped the end of the hose on the brass, waited to cool. Slipped it on the S/D and fitting for the Ballast tank. Made sure it was super tight. I'm a happy camper.

                            Caswell and D & E miniatures make super good stuff, Take a bow david.

                            Jack

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                            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                              Moderator

                              • Aug 2008
                              • 13404

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pjdog
                              David:

                              You can tell at one look. It's packed in there like a sardine along with the snort but everything fits and works. A great receiver. Easy to set up with the little pluggy thing. The admiral here say's I can say 'little pluggy thing'. It's a "AFS Connector", goes in channel 8. It found the frequency right off. Not much further to go and it will be a submarine at last. The snort works great. Had no trouble with the black hose for the snort. Took 1/8 brass, tapered the end, heated it, slipped the end of the hose on the brass, waited to cool. Slipped it on the S/D and fitting for the Ballast tank. Made sure it was super tight. I'm a happy camper.

                              Caswell and D & E miniatures make super good stuff, Take a bow david.

                              Jack
                              You're very kind, Jack. Thank you. We try.

                              And by 'we' I mean Mike Caswell: he's the big reason these products are available. Mike took the financial risk to stock the D&E Miniatures line of r/c submarine products -- without his backing Ellie and I would not be enjoying the sales we currently are.

                              Behind every successful mad-scientist there's a sound, level-leaded, foreword thinking businessman.

                              So, with your permission, Jack, I invite Mr. Caswell to also take a step forward and take a bow. Thank you, Mike.

                              David,
                              Who is John Galt?

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