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  • Monahan Steam Models
    Captain
    • Apr 2020
    • 755

    #16
    Randy,

    When I took the servos apart, I used automotive black RTV sealant on all the mating surfaces. I put extra in the notch where the wire exit the case. I also added a blob of it to both sides of the 3 wire servo cable roughly where it would sit in the notch. My plan was to also use flex seal as the last step in the process but decided it probably did need it.

    Nick

    Maybe other could also chime in with suggestions too

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    • RanSan
      Lieutenant
      • May 2020
      • 61

      #17
      Thanks Nick I will give that a try. The flex seal added that little piece of mind and seems to work pretty well. Once it starts to peel off thought it just keeps peeling.

      Thanks again.

      Randy

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      • Monahan Steam Models
        Captain
        • Apr 2020
        • 755

        #18
        It has been 10 days since I finished the build and testing of the sg90 servo and it has not leaked a drop of mineral oil. Just plugged it into the servo tester to run it through some paces and it still works the same as before. At this point I’m happy with the results but the slightly higher current draw than stock is still a concern.

        I tested a non knock off, original sg90 servo and found that this unmodified servo current draw was half of what I saw with the servo batch I used in these tests. Seems there might be a manufacturing quality issue with the knock off servos. There was no significant difference between the two servo types or their components upon visual inspection.

        That is what I have to report so far.

        Nick



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        • Monahan Steam Models
          Captain
          • Apr 2020
          • 755

          #19
          First major failure. The waterproofed servo has been left sitting in the bench for the last 20 days. Today when I looked at it, the equalizer diaphragm had popped off of its RTV seal and the mineral oil had leaked out.

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          Unsure what caused this failure, but it’s not looking good.

          Nick

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          • SubDude
            Captain
            • Dec 2019
            • 803

            #20
            Could you put the diaphragm on the inside of the case?

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            • Monahan Steam Models
              Captain
              • Apr 2020
              • 755

              #21
              Originally posted by RCJetDude
              Could you put the diaphragm on the inside of the case?
              Steve,

              Yes that is a possibility. I am still unsure of why exactly the diaphragm failed in the first place. The servo has been sitting on the bench untouched, in a climate controlled room since it was assembled. The day before it was fine. It was either Murphy, the damn cats or something else that caused the failure. Really the diaphragm should have been more securely fixed and sealed into place by a mechanical means.

              Nick

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator
                • Aug 2008
                • 12333

                #22
                Originally posted by Monahan Steam Models

                Steve,

                Yes that is a possibility. I am still unsure of why exactly the diaphragm failed in the first place. The servo has been sitting on the bench untouched, in a climate controlled room since it was assembled. The day before it was fine. It was either Murphy, the damn cats or something else that caused the failure. Really the diaphragm should have been more securely fixed and sealed into place by a mechanical means.

                Nick
                Sounds like the adhesive used to bond the soft rubber disc to the hard plastic body failed -- likely chemical attack from the oil. Find an adhesives chemistry that is inert to the oil. Or change the oil type.

                It never ends. Huh, Nick!

                David
                Fellow Traveler down these rocky roads of advancement
                Who is John Galt?

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                • Sam Victory
                  Commander
                  • Sep 2021
                  • 391

                  #23
                  Try this, I know a guy who runs most of his submarines with the servo submerged in water and has been running them for years. His method is this and simple: first open the servo housing and glue the control circuit board of the rudder with 704 glue (this is a silicone rubber used to seal the circuit board and make electronic components waterproof, like your ESC). Then lube the servo gears, liberally. Then cover the rudder housing and seal the edges of the housing with 704 glue. I know this makes the servo housing look ugly because it's covered in glue, but it proved to be effective. Finally, mount your servo upside down (rocker arms facing down) I think this allows the lube to naturally build up at the gears by gravity and lubricates the gears nicely.

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                  • redboat219
                    Admiral
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2760

                    #24
                    Sam, do you have a link to Chinese RC sub sites?
                    Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                    • Sam Victory
                      Commander
                      • Sep 2021
                      • 391

                      #25
                      Originally posted by redboat219
                      Sam, do you have a link to Chinese RC sub sites?
                      潜艇模型讨论区-5iMX.com 我爱模型 玩家论坛 ——专业遥控模型和无人机玩家论坛(玩模型就上我爱模型,创始于2003年)

                      潜艇-台湾遥控模型-RCTW

                      Here, I haven't paid attention for a long time, because rc submarines are very rare in China and few people want to participate in the hobby. The second link is to a forum in Taiwan province, and the first link is to a forum in mainland China. I often worry that this hobby will disappear in my generation.

                      V

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                      • redboat219
                        Admiral
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2760

                        #26
                        Thanks Sam.
                        Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                        • Monahan Steam Models
                          Captain
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 755

                          #27
                          Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named


                          It never ends. Huh, Nick!

                          David
                          Fellow Traveler down these rocky roads of advancement
                          That’s the truth right there! The only way forward is to stay in the fight.

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                          • Bob Gato
                            Captain
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 831

                            #28
                            OK crazy idea #47...
                            what if you drilled and tapped a port in the servo case(anywhere) and screwed in a tiny pressure port (borrowed from the nitro RC airplane world)-then ran a short dead end silicon tube or a tube made from another stretchy expanding material like latex surgical. Who says the accumulator has to be part of the servo- it could be more bourdon tube like?

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                            • RanSan
                              Lieutenant
                              • May 2020
                              • 61

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bob Gato
                              OK crazy idea #47...
                              what if you drilled and tapped a port in the servo case(anywhere) and screwed in a tiny pressure port (borrowed from the nitro RC airplane world)-then ran a short dead end silicon tube or a tube made from another stretchy expanding material like latex surgical. Who says the accumulator has to be part of the servo- it could be more bourdon tube like?
                              Funny you should say that Bob. That’s sort of how the thrusters on the Atlantis tourist subs work.

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                              • Bob Gato
                                Captain
                                • Feb 2019
                                • 831

                                #30
                                I am in the "Zone" Randy!

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