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Finishing up a turnkey job, the TI 31" Disney NAUTILUS.
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Not done yet, Andy.
After the primer gray I laid down the green. Just enough of the green will be left when finished to suggest verdigris. The rust and green will tone way done after I apply the 'dark bronze' final color. Then a very flat clear coat to protect the paint and stop the oxidization of the rust wash, and I'm done with it.
What a delightful departure from the normal subjects I assemble.
David,Who is John Galt?Comment
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Beautiful build-- I've been following it for a while.
This Nautilus hull (by Lee Seiler) and the "other hull" (by Scott Brodeen) are cast polyurethane resin. My (finely-tuned, frequently correct, but not always) sense of intuition says that resin might be a problem in a large piece like a hull. How do you think it would be for dimensional stability and durability in the long-run?
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Bill,
Yeah ... don't know if those two have resolved the chicken/egg controversy between themselves. Two fine products.
That's easy to answer: Unreinforced resin pieces (the larger, the worse) Suck as structural elements! The thermosetting plastic exhibits very undesirable thermoplastic properties -- warping is the big issue with these things. You got to be pretty sharp with a heat-gun to get things back into shape. I wish this guy would produce the hull pieces as GRP!
DON'T leave it on the picnic table during a hot July afternoon!!!!!
But, I can't complain -- it's a beautiful piece of kit engineering (discounting the warping issues) it's a remarkably tight fitting kit. Assembly has been a joy!
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I wonder why Bob, Jim and Scott haven't considered making available an epoxy or polyester resin cast version of their little 31" Nautilus. I think it would be better for R/C conversion. Perhaps a lack of demand (most prefer the 66" biggun for conversion)?Comment
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That is what I figured.
One idea I'm toying with is to get one of the 31" resin Nautili and use it as a plug to make a mold and do my own 'glas hull. 99% of the beauty of this kit is in the wonderful detail and 99.9% of the work is in the %$#* rivets, so starting with that hull would be a great head start. And when I get done, I could pass the resin hull on to the next "victim" at a good price.
The 66" boat would be beautiful, but I'm not sure I want to take on a boat that large right now. I do rather like Slat's idea of a 1:72 fleet.
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Bill, and all those looking over our shoulders:
On behalf of the professional Model Builder who constructed the master and who to this day has a commercial interest in that kit -- DON'T DO THAT!
What you are proposing is THEFT. Even if you use that tired old axiom, "I'm only building one or two for myself and maybe a friend."
If you're not prepared to do the hard work or secure permission from the property owner, and your only alternative is copy another's work, then you don't deserve your precious little toy submarine.
Don't copy other peoples work without their express permission.
We clear on this?
David,Who is John Galt?Comment
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Oh my, I wasn't even suggesting that!
Purchasing their model, and making specific improvements in their execution of the model so that it could be more suitable for the end product is a perfectly resonable use of that model. Were the model not made of cast resin, then the end-user would not need ot go to such great lengths to get something usable. As you said:
It ain't rocket science. I could see a complaint if I made one for myself and then sold a couple extra to offset expenses, but this is, and will be, one and only one copy for my use.Unreinforced resin pieces (the larger, the worse) Suck as structural elements! The thermosetting plastic exhibits very undesirable thermoplastic properties -- warping is the big issue with these things. You got to be pretty sharp with a heat-gun to get things back into shape. I wish this guy would produce the hull pieces as GRP!
In a way, it's no different than Dave taking the Lindberg I-53 model and revising the bow, hatches and fittings for scale accuracy. Or making "fittings kits" to convert plastic display models to RC models. Or taking the TI Nautilus and modifying the prop for vectored thrust instead of using the designed rudder and planes for directional control.
Or, if Rick made his Foxtrot of cast resin instead of GRP, would he be shocked if a customer improved upon that?
But you're right, this may be an ethical gray area. Nice model, lousy material, I'll get plans and do my own from scratch.
What can I do to get back in your (and Rick's) good graces? :)
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At any rate, this is what I've been up to...
As my intro to RC boats, I'm building a Springer tug, which is a simple generic hull that will accept a variety of superstructures. In addition to the typical tugboat-top, I'm making two other tops for it, using 'glas and the lost-foam technique...Attached FilesComment
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Now that is neat stuff! It looks like someone is going to beat Andy to the punch getting the Beatles Sub into the water.
Your character of the Disney NAUTILUS looks to be a fun little thing too.
And ... all original work. Bonus points, Bill.
David,Who is John Galt?Comment
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Too late, Bill.
The contract on your life was bought up last night. Rose is, as we speak, on a plane to execute it (she works cheap).
So ... the next couple days, as you walk the Mall's shopping for holiday gifts, be on the lookout for a pudgy little 12-year old, in black, a well worn copy of Midnight under one arm and a violin case under the other.
On your behalf I called her a few minutes ago trying to void the arrangement. All I got from her was, "A deal's a deal, Grandpa!", and then some mumbled words about it just being business, or some such, as she slammed the phone down. It's been nothing but dial-tone since.
Sorry.
Can't speak about what Rick's going to do with you, Bill. Last I heard from Rick he was having a West Coast pirate decapitated and the ass-holes heart brought back as a trophy.
More as reports come in from the field.
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Nah, this will be a shell of a surface-runner, Andy'll be into the water by a longshot. I've got two boats in line ahead of it. I'd been toying with the idea of an operational YellowSub and came across a photo if Andy's hull (or plug). Exchanged a couple of eMails, and the idea went from "Hmmm" to "Do-able". It'll be interesitng to see how this turns out-- we're using different sources for our respective "One And True" Yellow Sub.It looks like someone is going to beat Andy to the punch getting the Beatles Sub into the water...
Oh shoot, that sounds like bad news. She looks like a tough cookie.Too late, Bill.
The contract on your life was bought up last night. Rose...
Been nice knowin' you...
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Just heard back from Rose. She's on her way back (United has a great kids-fair deal this month -- with bonus miles).
You're in luck. This morning she sold her interest of the contract to a third-party Turkish hit-man. Some guy named, Keyser Soze.
So, no sweat. You're all but off the hook my friend.
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