66" of rustic, Victorian joy arrived today

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Yes it was, alongside Scott Brodeen. The original was a custom job for a client, and I believe the finished cost was somewhere in the region of $25k, which makes the $1.7K seem rather a bargain in comparison.

In it's original guise the model was built using the Disney prints with all their inherent failings, most notably the alligator eyes were completely wrong.

This alongside a whole host of smaller details were corrected for the second version of the model, which was then put into limited production in two forms- static and R/C. The latter came with beefed up hydrovanes, and a removable top for easy access.

The third version, which Bob is supplying through the drydocks site has the most mods to date. These mods are listed on the site.

The mods have been tied into the 11 foot hero, which being the only complete version of the Disney Nautilus is considered by purists to be the definitive version.

However the fullsize sets did differ from this hero in many areas, so you pays your money. The Ray Mason boat has always been my favourite, it's more than accurate enough to keep me satisfied, it's a nice size and I liked the mottled finish he gave it- heck of a boat. I believe it's an odd scale of about 1/42th scale.

Bob has got a slightly smaller version on the way at 1/48th scale, my bets are on this one being the best seller, as it's a good size to R/C, large enough for a bit of 'pond presence' whilst being small enough to fit on the sideboard and across the backseat of a car.

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Yes, Ray Mason's 50" Nautilus is Great!
See Site:

http://www.vulcaniasubmarine.com/RAY%20MASON.htm

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Scott Brodeen making Rivets:

http://www.vulcaniasubmarine.com/SCOTT%20BRODEEN.htm

Jim Key at work:

http://www.vulcaniasubmarine.com/JIM%20KEY.htm

The 66" model was a real team effort wasn't it? :)

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The original was a custom job for a client, and I believe the finished cost was somewhere in the region of $25k

I just Realized:
$25.K huh, That's telling me that they have 'Already gotten paid' for the most difficult part, the mold-master. :mad:
(At least I hope the ones that did the work got paid their fair share.)
And that makes me even more Un-happy with the high price of the kit. :(

[Subculture]

Those pictures show the original version one model, before they corrected the alligator eyes etc.

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The realality is sinking in:
They're a team of professionals, still trying to price their creations at Movie production prices, not at Hobbiest prices.

More Info on Team Origins:

http://customreplicas.com/66_Nautilus.htm

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

The realality is sinking in:
They're a team of professionals, still trying to price their creations at Movie production prices, not at Hobbiest prices.

More Info on Team Origins:
http://customreplicas.com/66_Nautilus.htm

If you think there is/was 'big buck's' in motion picture/TV effects miniature making work, you are mistaken!

David,

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I know there were Big-Bucks spent on Movie props before CG.
(I know people that made them.)
Compaired to hobbiest built and sold miniatures, etc., that is.
Of course it depends on how many people are getting a cut of the pay-check, and who gets their cut first.
Is that what you are talking about?

Why does everyone want to argue with me around here. :D LOL :D

[Slats]

Why does everyone want to argue with me around here. :D LOL :D

Because you bite so well, its fun, and a fair amount of the time your wrong.
that said Rick we love you as is - don't dare change :D:D:D

J:)

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I know there were Big-Bucks spent on Movie props before CG.
(I know people that made them.)
Compaired to hobbiest built and sold miniatures, etc., that is.
Of course it depends on how many people are getting a cut of the pay-check, and who gets their cut first.
Is that what you are talking about?

Why does everyone want to argue with me around here. :D LOL :D

I've built miniatures professionally for 30 some years now, a sizable fraction of that work for the effects industry (ST-5, Red October, Crimson Tide, Attack from Mars, STNG, and others). And I'm not alone -- the money was not 'big' at all. My margin, and this is the norm, is very, very low.

David,

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and a fair amount of the time your wrong. :D

I seriously considered that, but then decided 'Naw, that Can't be right!' :D LOL

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My margin, and this is the norm, is very, very low.

David,

But weren't you Sub-contracting thru someone else that was getting paid a lot?
and keep in mind, I was compairing movie miniatures contracts to 'normal' hobbiest kit prices, which are usually under $500.(even for the high priced ones and even at today's inflated prices).

What I'm saying is that we are compairing Apples to Oranges. They're just not the same thing. And some kit makers don't realize that difference yet. But when they can't sell many at the outragiously high price they will realize their error. At least I hope they do, and start selling in volume instead of trying to get rich on just a few kits.
So us kids, stuck in the Outback, can have one to! :)
Then many of us can have '66" of rustic, Victorian joy'. :D LOL :D

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I think you're way out my friend. Have a look at what a good quality, mass produced kit with a GRP hull and fittings will set you back nowadays.

More along the lines of $1000, and that's a high production item.

Also have a look at scale helicopter fuselages- look at how much they cost.

[Slats]

True scale targets are up in this price range now.
Some of which are semi (not complete) kits.

Best
J

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I don't 'shake it up' with the High-Roller crowd, like you guys do. :D
I'll just continue to Refuse to be 'Ripped-Off'. ;)