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  • toppack
    Rear Admiral
    • Nov 2008
    • 1124

    #16
    But don't hurry on my account.
    I doubt that I'll ever purchase the kit, unless I can some how get it for about 1/3 the present asked price.
    I don't like being 'Taken advantage of'.:mad:
    ('Taken' is the most positive way I could say it, I wanted to use Much more Negative words)
    Last edited by toppack; 03-18-2009, 03:18 PM.
    Rick L.
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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator
      • Aug 2008
      • 12343

      #17
      Originally posted by toppack
      But don't hurry on my account.
      I doubt that I'll ever purchase the kit, unless I can some how get it for about 1/3 the present asked price.
      I don't like being 'Taken advantage of'.:mad:
      ('Taken' is the most positive way I could say it, I wanted to use Much more Negative words)
      TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF????.... TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF????!!!!!!

      This thing is cheap at twice the price! At the listed price this thing is a steal. Yet you guys still *****. Man!

      You people!

      David,
      Who is John Galt?

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      • toppack
        Rear Admiral
        • Nov 2008
        • 1124

        #18
        Sorry, but I did Not see any Gold & Diamonds on it anywhere?
        No bag of FG and resin parts is worth $1,700. Thumbs Down
        No how, No where, No way!
        Last edited by toppack; 03-18-2009, 03:34 PM.
        Rick L.
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        Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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        • Subculture
          Admiral
          • Feb 2009
          • 2123

          #19
          What value do you place on your time, or someone else's for that matter?

          I've never met a wealthy modelmaker, EVER. Seen a few jewellers doing very nicely though!

          These kits aren't mass produced items, they're hand made and sold at very low quantities- Revell or Tamiya it isn't. I think it's a fair price.

          As I said before, if the price is too high, build one yourself, lots of information freely available for this model that just wasn't out there a few years ago.

          However don't be too surprised if you find the cost starts to mount up, not to mention the several hundred hours of labour you'll put into the model. If you consider time as money, you'll be surprised at the true cost of your model, even at the lowest of wages it'll run into several thousand for a model with level of detail this one has.

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          • toppack
            Rear Admiral
            • Nov 2008
            • 1124

            #20
            Originally posted by Subculture
            These kits aren't mass produced items, they're hand made and sold at very low quantities- Revell or Tamiya it isn't.
            If he would lower the price, to a Fair price, he would sell so many he could go into mass production and sell them world-wide.

            If I'm doing something I enjoy, I never put a Labor cost on that time. :)
            Last edited by toppack; 03-18-2009, 04:06 PM.
            Rick L.
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            Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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            • Subculture
              Admiral
              • Feb 2009
              • 2123

              #21
              The demand for a large scale nautilus is moderate. Even if there was mass market for this enterprise, the method of construction would have to be different.

              You have the tooling to consider. After so many 'pulls' you have to renew the rubber tooling, because the resin burns them out- a labour and time intensive job, the materials aren't cheap either.

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              • toppack
                Rear Admiral
                • Nov 2008
                • 1124

                #22
                Originally posted by Subculture
                . After so many 'pulls' you have to renew the rubber tooling, because the resin burns them out-
                Hey Great, maybe he'll sell some of those slightly defective parts at a decent price. :D LOL :D
                I don't mind repairing minor defects, as long as I don't have to pay anyone to fix them. :D

                No it's Not being Cheap, it's being Thrifty, Conservative amd Smart.
                And Not being 'Taken Advantage Of'! :)
                To anyone that says $1,700. is a fair price for that kit, I'll say that I have a Great Race Horse that I'd like to sell you. (Shipping and handling Extra, of course) :D
                Last edited by toppack; 03-18-2009, 05:02 PM.
                Rick L.
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                Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 12343

                  #23
                  Originally posted by toppack
                  If he would lower the price, to a Fair price, he would sell so many he could go into mass production and sell them world-wide.

                  If I'm doing something I enjoy, I never put a Labor cost on that time. :)
                  Mr. Key and Mr. Martin are doing this as a business. Believe me, after the first five or ten production units it stops being, 'fun', and I want a fair return on my labor, shop costs, and materials.

                  David,
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • Slats
                    Vice Admiral
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1776

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Merriman
                    You must at least see the movie, a real treat. A magnificent production: the music, the art direction, acting, everything makes it a magical experience. James Mason is stunning as Nemo. A very, very innovative and out-of-the-mainstream (for the times) movie. Practically invented modern underwater motion picture photography.

                    David,

                    Ok I'll check out the DVD - its 20,000 leagues right.
                    Did not see much in the way of TV or movies growing up.
                    The Seaview is also lost on me too. Never seen the TV show of what that was about - it did screeen here I think.

                    J
                    John Slater

                    Sydney Australia

                    You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
                    Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.



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                    • toppack
                      Rear Admiral
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1124

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Merriman
                      Believe me, after the first five or ten production units it stops being, 'fun', and I want a fair return on my labor, shop costs, and materials.

                      David,
                      Yes, the key word in your statement is 'Fair'. :)
                      Rick L.
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                      Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                      • toppack
                        Rear Admiral
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1124

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Slats
                        Ok I'll check out the DVD - its 20,000 leagues right.
                        Yes, Strange name, Good movie.
                        Especially considering it was made in the early '50s, before CG.
                        Rick L.
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                        * Asking Questions is a 'Good Thing',
                        Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                        • Nuke Power
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 277

                          #27
                          David is right. Ive started making and selling a few items now and you cant imagine the time/labor that goes into that final product. Its not just the cost of materials. Tell me what is your life worth?

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                          • Slats
                            Vice Admiral
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1776

                            #28
                            Rick agree with David et.al mate -drop this issue over "fair" price.
                            I have a long line of serial wingers over the years baulk at my turn key fees. Yes I love to doing them - but at days end that income helps pay my way in life.

                            If don't like the price - don't buy it - or perhaps have a go at building yourself.

                            If this hobby was running soley on the backs of people doing it out of a labour of love - the hobby would not exist. That said, most who take the time to painstakingly develop and produce a kit do not reap in super normal profits. They are entitled to reap rewards for their efforts.

                            J
                            John Slater

                            Sydney Australia

                            You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
                            Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.



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                            • toppack
                              Rear Admiral
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1124

                              #29
                              Dang it! When was the last time any of you paid $1700. for a hull kit ???
                              I'm saying that I Never will,
                              and anyone that pays that much for one has more money than brains.
                              Sure I'm ****ed about his outragious price. With Good reason!
                              There, I finally got that out. ;)
                              Last edited by toppack; 03-18-2009, 08:21 PM.
                              Rick L.
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                              • Nuke Power
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 277

                                #30
                                Hmmm you should see this beautiful 1/96 Ohio I have.... WORTH EVERY SINGLE DIME!
                                GO buy a crappy inacurate nautilus.

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