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The majority of us are just so glad its a submarine, when its dived we won't have too look at the poor dear and this sick feeling will stop :wink:
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John Slater
Sydney Australia
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I hereby award John the 2013 TROLL AWARD for his really mean denigration of the K Boats. :)
John, you can collect your award from under the nearest bridge!
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Here are some ideas for hydraulic actuation. They are sold at
hobby lobby for about $20.00 so use the 40% off coupon.
Make sure you have the correct change for the troll bridge.:wink:
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John Slater
Sydney Australia
You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.
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You're next you bum. Where is MY ORDER!!! Fix those Subdrivers and parts up and take my money damm it.
Then when your done shipping that off get that Albacore hull finished. Your so close to the finish line on that one.
Mike -lock him back in the cave, bread and water, and no sunlight. If that doesn't work a cattle prod to the nuts might help.John Slater
Sydney Australia
You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.
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I hear you -- I'm on it, promise. (sound of Ellie rolling the bolder back in place blocking the entrance to the Cave so I can't get out)
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John Slater
Sydney Australia
You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.
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Soon as I dig myself out of this back-log hole -- Caswell just won't let up with the PO's.
I've been cursed with success.
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Albacores, aren't those just football-shaped sewer pipes? Dunno why someone would get excited about those. OH YES, I forgot. He lives under a bridge, not much to get excited about under a bridge. I suppose an Albacore may seem pretty exotic. :)Comment
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Kim don't ever change. I like you - you should be in the sub game. And you'll be right at home on this forum.
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Albacore, exotic - No - but there is a demand for this kit - a fairly big one. Albacore was a BIG game changer in sub design and not just for the US. Whereas the K class was an experiment in what not to do, a Rube Goldberg machine, and as pretty as a mummified Johnson. :biggrin:
Here's some K class history - note it was referred to as the "Kalamity class":
From wikipedia...
"The K class submarines were a class of steam-propelled submarines of the Royal Navy designed in 1913. Intended as large, fast vessels which had the endurance and speed to operate with the battle fleet, they gained notoriety, and the nickname of Kalamity class, for being involved in many accidents. Of the 18 built, none was lost through enemy action but six sank in accidents. Only one ever engaged an enemy vessel, hitting a U-boat amidships though the torpedo failed to explode."
"The great size of the boats compared to their predecessors led to control and depth keeping problems particularly as efficient telemotor controls had not yet been developed. This was made worse by the estimated maximum diving depth of 200 ft (60 m) being much less than their length. Even a 10 degree angle on the 339 ft (103 m) long hull would cause a 59 ft (18 m) difference in depth of the bow and stern, and 30 degrees would produce 170 ft (50 m) which meant that while the stern would almost be on the surface, the bow would almost be at its maximum safe depth. The problems were made even more dangerous because the eight internal bulkheads were designed and tested during development to stand a pressure equivalent to only 70 ft (20 m)."
"K3 was the first of the class to be completed, in May 1916 and trials showed numerous problems. The most serious was the high temperatures in the boiler room which was to some extent alleviated by installing bigger fans.
Steaming at speed tended to push the bow into the water making the already poor sea-keeping worse. To fix this a bulbous swan bow was added. Nevertheless there were still problems, the most embarrassing being that in a heavy sea water could enter the boat through the twin funnels and put the boiler fires out.
They suffered numerous accidents, largely caused by their poor manoeuvrability coupled with operating with the surface fleet, and which caused the loss of the following:
K13 sank on 19 January 1917 during sea trials when an intake failed to close whilst diving and her engine room flooded. She was eventually salvaged and recommissioned as K22 in March 1917.
K1 collided with K4 off the Danish coast on 18 November 1917 and was scuttled to avoid capture.
Two boats were lost in an incident known as the Battle of May Island on 31 January 1918. The cruiser HMS Fearless collided with the head of a line of submarines, K17, which sank in about 8 minutes, whilst other submarines behind her all turned to avoid her. K4 was struck by K6 which almost cut her in half, and was then struck by K7 before she finally sank with all her crew. At the same time K22 (the recommissioned K13) and K14 collided although both survived. In just 75 minutes, two submarines had been sunk, three badly damaged and 105 crew killed.
K5 was lost due to unknown reasons during a mock battle in the Bay of Biscay on 20 January 1921. Nothing further was heard of her following a signal that she was diving, but wreckage was recovered later that day. It was concluded that she exceeded her safe maximum depth.
K15 sank at her mooring in Portsmouth on 25 June 1921. This was caused by hydraulic oil expanding in the hot weather and contracting overnight as the temperature dropped and the consequent loss of pressure causing diving vents to open. The boat flooded through open hatches as it submerged.
HMS K4 ran aground on Walney Island in January 1917 and remained stranded there for some time.
Dive time was around 5 minutes, with the record being 3 minutes 25 seconds which was claimed by K8. The leisurely time allowed the captain the luxury of being able to walk around the superstructure to ensure that the funnels were securely folded."John Slater
Sydney Australia
You would not steal a wallet so don't steal people's livelihood.
Think of that before your buy "cheap" pirated goods or download others work protected by copyright. Theft is theft.
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Alright, already. I never said they were perfect, just that I love them despite all their problems. But just wait!!! When I eventually build one (and this of course means if I have the skill to build one the way I WANT to build one), you will all gape at the sheer size of the hull (56.6 " long - no mummified Johnson there!!!) , you will gasp with envy at the bow torpedo tubes AND the broadside torpedo tubes AND the trainable twin tubes in the superstructure; you will goggle at the folding funnels, you will be transfixed by the telescoping radio masts, and (finally) you will tremble at the sight of the three-gun broadside. Oh yes, periscopes and folding dive planes are nothing compared to the potential operating systems on a K Boat. Trust me, you will ALL want one then. Kazzer will be doing a roaring trade in supplying K Boat hulls.
Let us put this thread to bed as clearly no-one will convince me that a K Boat is anything but the ultimate model submarine........ :)
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