Worker sets fire to USS Miami to go home early

[Slats]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477917/worker-set-$400m-maine-submarine-fire-to-get-out-of-work-early/

Too many nut jobs in the world.
What I want to know is do civilian contractors go through background checks?
Who did this guy screw to get this job?

This shameful crime could have killed a great many people, and now the US taxpayer has a $400 million bill, and has a defence asset not being able to be used.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Me thinks this guy went straight from taking carnival Ferris-wheel tickets to a civil-service job grinding down weld beads.
I'll bet money this guy has a mullet, lives in a trailer, and drives a pick-up truck.



David

[vital.spark]

Hang the SOB by the balls for TREASON!!

[redboat219]

Couldn't he just have walked out of the gate if he wanted to go?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Couldn't he just have walked out of the gate if he wanted to go?

Sure. And told not to come back by his Supervisor. By setting the fires, all are off the job for 'safety' reasons.

He should never see the light of day again.

David

[Kazzer]

Couldn't he just have walked out of the gate if he wanted to go?

Nah! That's not The American Way! You have to arm yourself to the teeth, don armor, and blaze into a school or cinema, killing dozens of your countrymen. It's called 'going postal'!
While you're not doing that, you'll be condoning imprisoning your fellow citizens for petty crimes (usually dealing with magic mushrooms or weed) with sentences that last well beyond their life expectancies. Or, you'll be in a weird church, praying your way out of all the sins you've committed. Or, you'll be condoning going to war (costing us our shirts) because some nut-job killed 3000 of your fellow citizens, while you have been killing 20,000 of your own every year through dumb gun laws, written by a bunch of guys wearing funny hats about 300 years ago.

Fun - isn't it!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

The obvious answer is unrestricted access to guns, weapons grade Uranium, and drugs. In the same move remove ALL federal government 'recovery' programs, welfare, and school funding.


Let the States handle things for a change.


Make welfare what it should be: a local activity, monitored by the recipients neighbors -- time for the churches to pony up; stop buying statues, hiding Priests, and get to their stated mission of helping people: dole out the collection plate proceeds to the so-called needy. I can assure you, the churches and rest of the 'community' will be more demanding of results from welfare dollars handed out than the far-flung federal government is today.


Ian Rand, call your office.

David

[Albion]

Over here we just had a church taken to court, looks like the key figures had invested $50M, about US$40M, of church funds. Hmmmm
Firstly not their money, secondly which idiots gave them all that money! I'm in the wrong business

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...26-361365.html

[Kazzer]

Firstly not their money, secondly which idiots gave them all that money!

It's all those who mistakenly think that they can buy their way into their 'kingdom of heaven'! Personally, I believe I'm already there!

[Kazzer]

The obvious answer is unrestricted access to guns, weapons grade Uranium, and drugs. In the same move remove ALL federal government 'recovery' programs, welfare, and school funding.


Let the States handle things for a change.


Make welfare what it should be: a local activity, monitored by the recipients neighbors -- time for the churches to phoney up; stop buying statues, hiding Priests, and get to their stated mission of helping people: dole out the collection plate proceeds to the so-called needy. I can assure you, the churches and rest of the 'community' will be more demanding of results from welfare dollars handed out than the far-flung federal government is today.


Ian Rand, call your office.

David

Oh! Dear! He's really good at submarine stuff! Give him a soapbox!

[Slats]

Its not a simple fix.

I have no right to criticise the US view on gun ownership.
One -I'm not a citizen
Two -I'm ignorant to the situation on the ground
Three -what I do know is that in Australia our laws regarding rights to defend oneself is very different. If we had here a greater right of reply to criminals in Australia (a good thing in my view), the majority here would support MORE gun ownership. The fact is therefore, foreign criticism of the American situation is biased by foreign views and laws that might be completely irrelevant to the USA.

I hope the US finds the right fix - perhaps that is simply doing more regular and better background checks. That lone nut in Colorado passed all current checks.

[Kazzer]

I hope the US finds the right fix - perhaps that is simply doing more regular and better background checks. That lone nut in Colorado passed all current checks.

It'll never happen! They couldn't agree on anything. Our government is completely broken and will stay that way.

[ADDINGTON]

I think the guy in Norway last yr killed more than the Aurora, Colmbine and Va. Tech massacres combined.
Maybe Norway needs more gun laws?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

A big step to keeping these mass killings in check is this: Immediate and brutal PUBLIC execution of the perpetrator. Feet first into a slow-running wood-chipper is always a crowd pleaser. "See what just happened to the bad-man, Johnny? We don't want to do what the bad-man did, do we, Johnny?!"

Will seeing such a lurid act of mechanized brutality imposed on a killer traumatize little Johnny?


God, I hope so!

Basic stuff, but a concept that the unaccountability-crowd (ACLU, NAACP, AMA and the other liberal alphabet soup type organizations) is loath to embrace. These guys want a world of zero-accountability.

A potential mass-killer, knowing that what awaits him should he attempt or execute the crime is an awful punishment, he will likely not engage in the activity. FEAR! The nicer word is deterrence. You learn, through observation, fear the consequence of your bad actions. So, you don't engage in the bad action. Duh!

About ten years from the moment of murder to execution (typical American appeals process for those convicted of Murder and awarded Death). And the eventual oh, so humane execution done behind curtained walls. Are you kidding me?!


We're doing it wrong!

Punishment, to be an effective deterrent, must be immediate, cruel, and public.

We are, after all, animals at our core. We have short memories, but we do respond to stimuli -- if its of the proper amplitude.

David

[Kazzer]

A big step to keeping these mass killings in check is this: Immediate and brutal PUBLIC execution of the perpetrator. Feet first into a slow-running wood-chipper is always a crowd pleaser.

We're doing it wrong! Punishment, to be an effective deterrent, must be immediate, cruel, and public. We are, after all, animals at our core. We have short memories, but we do respond to stimuli -- if its of the proper amplitude.

David

AHA! I have, for many years, pondered on the most effective form of punishment, and I think David has hit upon it. The wood-chipper! We should have one installed on every village green, oiled and ready for our first victims.

Unfortunately, public executions, while sobering to some viewers, tended to incite drunkenness, brawling and revelry in the streets. Which is why the British government stopped public hangings in the late 1800s. Villagers would come from miles to watch some poor soul (often wrongly convicted) have his head ripped from his shoulders because the hangman miscalculated. I suggest this became more of a theatrical event, somewhat like The Romans feeding Christians to the Lions, and one can't help but align this sort of behavior with the way the Muslim world treats its criminals.

Anyhow, how on earth did we get onto this? Back to submarines guys!