Motor selection advice

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Thorbrandr
    Lieutenant Commander

    • Mar 2022
    • 151

    #1

    Motor selection advice

    While I am enjoying Wisconsin late season sub running, I am starting to setup for my winter builds. Maybe two builds this winter....

    What is recommended for a motor for a propulsor drive modern sub - Columbia class in ~1/96 - driving a 70 mm 4 blade prop? Sub length will be abut 1.8m or ~6 ft

    I am agnostic on brushed or brushless motors.

    Thanks
    T
  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
    Moderator

    • Aug 2008
    • 13404

    #2
    A 555 geared 3:1.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0126.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	36.7 KB
ID:	189869
    Who is John Galt?

    Comment

    • Das Boot
      Rear Admiral

      • Dec 2019
      • 1488

      #3
      Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
      A 555 geared 3:1.

      Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0126.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	36.7 KB
ID:	189869
      David,
      what size drill bit did you use for the steel shaft/plastic gear assembly? It’s gotta be one tough drill bit as small as it is.
      Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

      Comment

      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
        Moderator

        • Aug 2008
        • 13404

        #4
        Originally posted by Das Boot

        David,
        what size drill bit did you use for the steel shaft/plastic gear assembly? It’s gotta be one tough drill bit as small as it is.
        1/16". Low speed, use oil.
        Who is John Galt?

        Comment

        • Subculture
          Admiral

          • Feb 2009
          • 2414

          #5
          The 555’s come in a very wide range of winds, some low revving some really high, so be mindful which one you select. I suspect Dave is thinking about something like this one https://www.componentshop.co.uk/mabu...-dc-motor.html

          At 3:1 reduction that would give an unloaded RPM of around 1700RPM at 12 volts, which sounds about right for your boat and prop combination.

          A brushless equivalent would be a 28-35mm outrunner of around 350-400kv, with a similar reduction of 3:1.
          Last edited by Subculture; 08-28-2025, 07:12 AM.

          Comment

          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator

            • Aug 2008
            • 13404

            #6
            Originally posted by Subculture
            The 555’s come in a very wide range of winds, some low revving some really high, so be mindful which one you select. I suspect Dave is thinking about something like this one https://www.componentshop.co.uk/mabu...-dc-motor.html

            At 3:1 reduction that would give an unloaded RPM of around 1700RPM at 12 volts, which sounds about right for your boat and prop combination.

            A brushless equivalent would be a 28-35mm outrunner of around 350-400kv, with a similar reduction of 3:1.
            On the array of typical motors we used commercially I not only counted the turns on each pole, I counted the poles, and measured the gauge of the armature wire.








            But, here's the bottom line. Stop being so god-damned anal about the specifications of your motor. Just grab a motor, stick it in the drive-train, operate the boat in the water and determine if you're happy with it or not.

            So, so many projects die on the vine because people, and I'm talking to you, overthink the project and never get off the ****ing toilet!

            Slap the motor in place and FIND OUT!

            David
            Pragmatist
            Who is John Galt?

            Comment

            • Thorbrandr
              Lieutenant Commander

              • Mar 2022
              • 151

              #7
              Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

              On the array of typical motors we used commercially I not only counted the turns on each pole, I counted the poles, and measured the gauge of the armature wire.

              But, here's the bottom line. Stop being so god-damned anal about the specifications of your motor. Just grab a motor, stick it in the drive-train, operate the boat in the water and determine if you're happy with it or not.

              So, so many projects die on the vine because people, and I'm talking to you, overthink the project and never get off the ****ing toilet!

              Slap the motor in place and FIND OUT!

              David
              Pragmatist
              t


              Indeed! Looking at my other WTCs, there is a rather wide variation in the motors. Figured I would ask while I have the build going.

              I am looking at my own WTC build for this one. I am already set for cutting and turning the plastic, and can print what I can't machine.

              Chris

              Comment

              • Das Boot
                Rear Admiral

                • Dec 2019
                • 1488

                #8
                Motors are the thing that I have the least trouble with. I would order something off of Amazon, for the right size, and don’t worry about who makes it. Most of the stuff comes from China anyway, so they’re all about the same. To be quite honest, I have never had a motor failure. Electronics, electronic speed controllers, BEC, receivers, yes, but not a motor.
                Last edited by Das Boot; 08-30-2025, 09:18 PM.
                Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

                Comment

                Working...