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  • MFR1964
    Detail Nut of the First Order

    • Sep 2010
    • 1593

    #1

    Building the little Kilo submarine

    I still had a Kilo submarine inside the box for some years, but i cannabilised the SD for building the 212, beside some small parts everything has to be remade.

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    This is the tube i have, naked to the bone.

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    Made those disks from plexiglas, in total 6, 4 some bigger for the bulkheads and two smaller to create a ballasttank.

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    Test fitting the smaller disk inside the tube, creating the bulkheads will take some glueing and work on the lathe.


    Manfred.

    I went underground
  • Das Boot
    Vice Admiral

    • Dec 2019
    • 1616

    #2
    This is gonna be a good one.
    Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

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    • MFR1964
      Detail Nut of the First Order

      • Sep 2010
      • 1593

      #3
      Rebuilding a SD is going to be interesting, learned a lot from David how it has been done, the biggest task will be the bulkheads with the O rings,from that point it should be easier, have all the small bits in the spare department.

      Manfred.
      I went underground

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      • redboat219
        Admiral

        • Dec 2008
        • 3606

        #4
        Still going with a gas ( butane/propane) to blow ballast or low- pressure blower?
        Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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        • MFR1964
          Detail Nut of the First Order

          • Sep 2010
          • 1593

          #5
          LPB it will be, no hassle with gas.

          Manfred.
          I went underground

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          • Das Boot
            Vice Admiral

            • Dec 2019
            • 1616

            #6
            If anyone gets the idea of building one after Manfred gets done, I have one new in the box I’m wanting to get rid of. Check out the for sale section here.
            Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

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            • MFR1964
              Detail Nut of the First Order

              • Sep 2010
              • 1593

              #7
              Glued together the disks which will be the bulkheads and did some work on the lathe

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              Glued both disks for both bulkheads and let them cure for 24 hrs, less curingtime will give problems with turning them down.

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              At first i turned them down to the diameter of the tube.

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              Second run, making them fit inside the tube still without the groove needed for the O ring.

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              It should fit like this, a little play between the bulkhead and the tube, want to avoid a tight fit, in the end the O ring will seal off the tube.

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              Fitting the bulkhead and the first part which will form the beginning of the ballasttank.

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              Both inner disks pre-pared for the conduit which will hold the power cables and the cables needed for the front servo.

              Now i have to make the grooves for the O rings, and do some testing to get them just right for sealing off the tube, this will be done step after step, i've got me one attempt to get it right, otherwise i have to make me some new bulkheads.


              Manfred.



              Last edited by MFR1964; 04-20-2026, 07:06 AM.
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              • MFR1964
                Detail Nut of the First Order

                • Sep 2010
                • 1593

                #8
                Grooves for the O rings are done, digged in the spare part drawers and got me some usefull parts from the past,

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                Making this took some time, each time you have place the O ring and to fit the bulkheads on the tube, you're aiming at having that small black line, knowing the seal is good.

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                Both bulkheads fitted, and the bulkheads placed for making the ballasttank, usually i make a dryfitt time after time before i glue things down.

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                First step in glueing, the SD had those holes, for screwing down the inner bulkheads.

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                Those are items found in the spare parts draw, the lever for sealing the ballasttank and the collars to fasten things.

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                Decided to go the way David did, a simple micro-switch to start the LPB, this way things can be done with one channel instead of two.

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                Same story with the valve on top of the tank, freshly sealed with RTV, retrieved from the spare parts, i'm that kind of person which like to save things for the future, you can never have to much spare parts.

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                All components in place, yet another dryfitt, still have to place/glue the cable conduit, in a later stage all will be adjusted to function properly


                For now i have to see what else hides in the spare department, need to source a small ESC, E-motor, receiver, LPB and some extra servo's


                Manfred.



                I went underground

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                • redboat219
                  Admiral

                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3606

                  #9
                  How come you opted to glue the ballast tank bulkheads to the inside of the SD than use the retaining screws?
                  Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                  • MFR1964
                    Detail Nut of the First Order

                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1593

                    #10
                    Romel,
                    Saving me the hassle of making more grooves for another set of O rings, due to the design of the SD you can reach everything without removing the ballasttank bulkheads.

                    Manfred.
                    I went underground

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                    • MFR1964
                      Detail Nut of the First Order

                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1593

                      #11
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                      Had to order a new ESC, found a complete LPB unit, deleted the switch on the servo and got me a motor which will fit inside the SD

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                      Made some tubing for managing the ballast system.

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                      Glued them down with some 2K epoxy and taped them down for curing.

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                      Once the glue was cured removed the tape and got me this clean look, don't like those hoses living in the wild, another set of tubes will be added for the antenna-wire.

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                      Made a make-shift frame for holding the servo's, just enough room to get the motor in.

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                      The shaft will be sealed with a lipseal, those inserts above are made by David, got some in the spare department.

                      Manfred.

                      I went underground

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                      • redboat219
                        Admiral

                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3606

                        #12
                        Kinda like the mechanical switch.
                        Last edited by redboat219; 05-05-2026, 04:47 PM.
                        Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                        • MFR1964
                          Detail Nut of the First Order

                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1593

                          #13
                          Romel, Using a switch is a usefull low tech solution when you don't have enough channels on your receiver, had the complete LPB laying around, enough channels on the receiver, the kilo will be build as a simple pool runner.

                          Manfred.
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                          • redboat219
                            Admiral

                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3606

                            #14
                            Manfred, with your initial plan of activating the lpb with a mechanical switch, those micro pumps are only rated to around 3V, how were you going to power the pump?
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                            Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                            • MFR1964
                              Detail Nut of the First Order

                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1593

                              #15
                              Romel,

                              I've used in the past two ways, one is, tie it into the 4,8 volt from the BEC, second is, use a resistor into the circuit of the LPB motor, for 12V it will be around 11 Ohm, for 6 V around 5 Ohm, this wil limit the voltage.

                              Manfred.

                              PS: Did a checkup on my stock, all those LPB's are rated 6V, not really sure why you have the 3V variant.
                              Last edited by MFR1964; 05-07-2026, 07:42 AM.
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