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  • MFR1964
    Detail Nut of the First Order
    • Sep 2010
    • 1304

    Bibers scale 1:35

    As promised i did some digging in the archives, buckle up,here we go

    I must mention all the work on the Bibers is done by my mentor, the only thing i did was bringing them back to live.

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    These are the mold derived from the Verlinden kit, he used them to make the glassfiber hulls

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    Those are the Bibers after i did some work bringing them back to live.

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    Just before i started opening them up

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    You can split them open by removing some small screws, the made a metal flange on both halves, used RTV to make a watertight connection
    As you can see he placed some small gears to get some more torque from the motor, and used as a transitions to the height of the propulsion shaft, i suspect it is rated 3:1

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    He made some cradles to hold both servo's, one for the rudder and one for the divingplanes.

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    Those servo's where burned out, you can see the bulge at the bottom, the reason it happens is, to much voltage at the servo's, he used a batterypack rated 6V, those servo's are rated 4,8 V, i changed the packs to 4,8 V on both bibers, luckely the size of the servo's are allmost the same which i had in stock.

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    To lubricate the shaft he placed two nipples, by removing them both you can fill it up with some light oil,usually this is done once a year during maintenance.

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    View on the rearpart with both the rudder and divingplanes.

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    The Biber disassembled, as a ESC he used a old servo print, replaced them both by modern ESC's to get more control on the speed, he used a 6 channel receiver, to control both Bibers i can use channel1-3 for one biber and channel 5-6 for the other.

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    Replaced both servo's which i had in stock, they are clamped together with some small screws.

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    Inside both torpedo's are the batteries, for long storage you can unplug them, the same connection is used for charging, switching on the Bibers is done by a magnetic switch which is hidden in one of the torpedo's.
    You can drive them for about 1 hr, more than enough time, they are dynamic divers and work surpricely well under water.


    Manfred.







    I went underground
  • Schmitty1944
    Lieutenant Commander
    • Mar 2021
    • 108

    #2
    Amazing. Thank you for showing and explaining the details. The radial split is a pretty clever approach. There is a fantastic amount of detail in those models. especially at such a small size.

    Unless there is something I don't see there is no gear reduction. All of the red gears have the same number of teeth. It is a very clever way to get the shaft at the bottom of the motor though. I did find your youtube videos "Reviving the Bibers, part 1 and 2" it looks like they have plenty of power and speed.

    I also found another youtube video of a 1/35th biber that is RC based on the Italeri kit. Not many details are given. It has a working ballast tank. It appears to use the torpedos propellers for propulsion and steering and maybe does not have moving controls? Included is a link to the video, note this is not mine and I don't know who the builder is but it may be from Canada?

    How do the seals work for the servo outputs in your Bibers (and Seehund)? You mentioned O-rings. Where are they located?

    Many thanks
    Jason.





     

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    • MFR1964
      Detail Nut of the First Order
      • Sep 2010
      • 1304

      #3
      Jason,

      You're right about the gears, i've checked it out on the pictures, only done to get it to the height of the shaft.
      As for the O rings, they are only used at the divingplanes, the rudder is sealed off by grease, he used injectionneedles with a tight fitted rod and a grease chamber, pretty much the same layout on the seehund.

      Manfred.
      I went underground

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      • Schmitty1944
        Lieutenant Commander
        • Mar 2021
        • 108

        #4
        Here are a few photos of the 2nd Biber I built based on a "toy" submarine. This one is completely working with a functional ballast tank. I just need to finish the details and paint and I was going to make more scale looking propellers for the torpedos.

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        Jason​
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