Silly question from a noob

[dajokster]

Hello all Id like to start off by thanking you for such a great forum with pricless information.
My question is I am realy new to subculture and I am looking to get into a nice sub kit, but I dont know witch one, ive seen the dumas boat on youtube and it seems so cheesy the way it works no disrispect to those that own them. I have also seen some that dive maintaining desierd depth in short seem to work as a real sub would, could some one tell me how to aquire a kit like that would be greatly appreciated.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Hello all Id like to start off by thanking you for such a great forum with pricless information.
My question is I am realy new to subculture and I am looking to get into a nice sub kit, but I dont know witch one, ive seen the dumas boat on youtube and it seems so cheesy the way it works no disrispect to those that own them. I have also seen some that dive maintaining desierd depth in short seem to work as a real sub would, could some one tell me how to aquire a kit like that would be greatly appreciated.

What's your r/c experience to date? Can't recommend anything till I find how smart/dumb you are at this stuff.

Speak up!

So ...

... How long have you and SubCultur been dating?

David,

[dajokster]

Well I was heavy into the serpent rc raceing roughly 8 years also race RC boats, but I can follow directions well.

Well we have been dateing for about a week or so I am hooked love at first site

[Subculture]

... How long have you and SubCultur been dating?

Love you too, duckie!

[dajokster]

hahaha !!!!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

LOL.

Anyway ...

... You've got plenty of r/c experience, and you can drive, no doubt about that.

OK, any r/c sub kit you buy you clearly can assemble without dead-ending on any single issue.

You could jump in straight away with the Robbe Type-7, a very well engineered kit and something you can convert to a dynamic diving type.

Or, you could wade in with a smaller, fully capable r/c sub conversion -- how about our SEAWOLF or KILO? Take one of those cheap Trumpeter plastic model kits, cram our fittings kit and SubDriver up it's backside, and you have a proper r/c submarine.

With your capabilities and practical experience, you'll do fine with any product out there.

David,

[Subculture]

If you want something bigger, the Engel Lafayette really is one hell of a good kit, for any level of modeller.

It's expensive, but very complete (add a leveller though for best performance), runs like a greyhound underwater, easy to work on.

[dajokster]

Again I would like to thank you all for your input. I will definitly start doing my research on the different kits.

[Kazzer]

We have the new D&E German 212, which looks like being a really hot boat.

[Slats]

Given that you have extensive RC experience -I have two questions for you

First question I have for you is what type of Sub interests you?
I.e. Do you like modern type subs, WW2 type subs, U-boats etc?

IMHO There is little point in buying and modelling a sub kit that is of little interest to you.

Second question is where do you intend on sailing?
No point in getting a large scale boat that won't turn around in a pool you intend on running in frequently.
A fresh water lake or an Olympic pool - different story on boat size.

Whatever the answers the obvious is that you will essentially be buying two pieces of overarching macro equipment - with lots of other micro bits and pieces. The macros are
1- The submarine kit itself
2- The internals to make it work.

The internals to make it work will be determined by which sub kit you pick. They vary in size and capability but I would strongly recommend that as your new to the RC Sub hobby you start with a preassembled Subdriver type Water Tight Cylinder (WTC) from the Caswell range.

RC submarines can be a either a tear your hair out process where you reinvent failed systems over and again and waste time and money, or you can start your education and fun the right way from the start with proven equipment and methodology.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

What the hell are you doing, John. Now I have to be nice to you again, is that it?!...

(His two points above are spot on, by the way).

David,

[Slats]

What the hell are you doing, John. Now I have to be nice to you again, is that it?!...

(His two points above are spot on, by the way).

David,

By all means just be yourself - I don't care if that's telling me to pull my head in -consistency is what counts. I won't keep on learning pal if you get all sooky on me.

here you go reason to be nasty to me - hurry and get my torpedoes done and follow up on that pesky order of mine!
J

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

(perfect)

David,

[Subculture]

The 212 would be a really nice boat to start with.

The x-tail will give you a turning circle tighter than a ducks doo-daa.

It also has lots of character, but a nice slippery shape that will work well underwater. What Dave and Brian have doen with the original kit is turn it from a kit that would suit the advanced modeller to a bigger version of the Revell kit. Looks like it'll just snap together.

Most older designs of submarines e.g before the late '50's were designed to spend most of there time above water- submergeable cruisers. Their hull shapes reflect this, and as such they don't run nearly so well underwater. If you want a fast and agile boat- buy a teradrop shaped boat.

Very early boats, like the Holland class are also a lot of fun.

[dajokster]

Well I seem to faver the german WWII boats for some reson.
I still race rc boats and the lake their has lots of space to sail and submerge who knows I might cause a trend at the lake.. :wink: