Caption this!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Agreed on that, but I must comment on the excellent safety record of the American weapons (jury's still out on what killed the SCORPION though).

David,

[639mpa]

If the Americans can sink their Nuclear Sub Guitarro alongside the pier during construction then we've shown them up eh Comrade?

http://www.history.navy.mil/library/special/guitarro.htm

[639mpa]

I thought the cork would hold. Da

[Rpmtech1]

Ahh, go it.

[Albion]

Typically at the front end we need to keep the spares prices down at new unit margins, cos you are still in price competition. once the guy has your equipment you can charge a more reasonable price ;)

[Rpmtech1]

Thats odd, why would you care when you sell the spare parts? Isint as much money you can get right now the best thing, or is there some side benefit.

[Albion]

Caption....."Communism -not built to the lowest cost but built by the loweliest conscripts."

Back around 95, we were trying to sell some pumps to a russian refinery through a engineering company in UK. I had never dealt with russians before. Normally we are asked to quote spare parts to cover first two years operation, for us this meant one set of bearings (which should really last 4-5 years), and a set of mechanical seals. We dont want to sell too many spares up front, we want to make money later on ;). so it became a big argument. The russians wanted 4 sets of seals and 4 sets of bearings, this pushes our base price up (which they want to negotiate down), and also means spares will be a long time coming. so it went backwards and forwards. Eventually the maintenance manager said to me, i do not believe your bearings and seals will last that long, with Russian pumps we replace them every 4 months, before they fail....

[Slats]

B-37, a FOXTROT class sub, was not a lucky sub. From Wikipedia:

Soviet submarine B-37 (Russian: Б-37) was a Project 641 or Foxtrot-class diesel submarine of the Soviet Navy's Northern Fleet.
On 11 January 1962, the submarine was tied up at the pier in Ekaterininsky bay of Polarny naval base, with all watertight doors open, while conducting maintenance and testing of her torpedoes. A fire broke out in the torpedo compartment, probably due to hydrogen gas igniting when electrical equipment was energized. All eleven torpedoes cooked off. The submarine was instantly destroyed with all hands except the commanding officer Captain Second Rank Begeba who was on the pier at the time of explosion, and Captain Third Rank Jakubenko, who was on another part of the sub base.
Soviet submarine S-350, a Project 633 or Romeo-class submarine tied up next to B-37, was badly damaged by the explosion as well, and several men from other ships and the shipyard were killed.
In total, 122 people were killed: 59 B-37 crewmen, 19 S-350 crewmen, and 44 others. The explosion hurled B-37's anchor nearly 2 kilometers (1.2 mi) from the dock.


I'm still trying to make out the Russian caption to this photo. I can't make out the last word but the caption starts out as ,"Working on ....". From the sound of the description of the accident, this photo must have been taken prior to the torpedo cook off.

Caption....."Communism -not built to the lowest cost but built by the loweliest conscripts."

The same Hydrogen proxide issue, the same failed technology, would cause the Kursk to go to to the bottom 38 years later, save of course the Soviets would try and blame "Western involvement".
HMS Sidon died the same way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sidon_%28P259%29

[Rpmtech1]

Damn, thats a pretty bad accident!

[greenman407]

That makes sence. I was wondering what the story was behind the last posted photo.

[roedj]

On second thought, the "caption this" photo may have been taken after the accident. Here's another photo I have of both b-37 and s-350 after the accident. They are in the foreground. The Russian caption which is not included here says something about a picture of the subs after they have been refloated.



Dan

[roedj]

B-37, a FOXTROT class sub, was not a lucky sub. From Wikipedia:

Soviet submarine B-37 (Russian: Б-37) was a Project 641 or Foxtrot-class diesel submarine of the Soviet Navy's Northern Fleet.
On 11 January 1962, the submarine was tied up at the pier in Ekaterininsky bay of Polarny naval base, with all watertight doors open, while conducting maintenance and testing of her torpedoes. A fire broke out in the torpedo compartment, probably due to hydrogen gas igniting when electrical equipment was energized. All eleven torpedoes cooked off. The submarine was instantly destroyed with all hands except the commanding officer Captain Second Rank Begeba who was on the pier at the time of explosion, and Captain Third Rank Jakubenko, who was on another part of the sub base.
Soviet submarine S-350, a Project 633 or Romeo-class submarine tied up next to B-37, was badly damaged by the explosion as well, and several men from other ships and the shipyard were killed.
In total, 122 people were killed: 59 B-37 crewmen, 19 S-350 crewmen, and 44 others. The explosion hurled B-37's anchor nearly 2 kilometers (1.2 mi) from the dock.


I'm still trying to make out the Russian caption to this photo. I can't make out the last word but the caption starts out as ,"Working on ....". From the sound of the description of the accident, this photo must have been taken prior to the torpedo cook off.

I think that I have that last word. It's a variation of the verb "to raise". So what I think the caption says is, "working on the raising". Which, in light of events, makes sense.


Dan

[redboat219]

Comrade, i think we have enough potatoes for our patrol.

[NavyICman]

There has to be a better way to load these rear tubes................

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Seaman 3rd-class Ivanov, having just goofed up the forward sanitary tank valve line-up (again!), looks up to the Captain and Political officer and announces,

"Comrade Captain, I respectively request that my pending Qualification board be rescheduled, and I be granted a bit more time to learn the boat".