Steering a Submarine

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  • junglelord
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    I prefer "Maggot" myself
    :p

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  • Slats
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    But Mike some of us like idiot / moron and dweb.

    It says so much for such little effort.:D:D:D:D

    J

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  • Kazzer
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    Oh! Yes, and another 'infraction point' for calling our treasured member an idiot.

    TuT! TuT!

    I'll have to add 'idiot' to the pink underwear cuss monitor!

    :(

    BTW Ellie told me he actually wears pink ones with white polka dots on! Its very sad! Very sad!

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  • Kazzer
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    Yes, he does!

    And 'earned' another 'cuss' infraction point today, I see!

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  • toppack
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    :D LOL :D
    And be sure to tell him that the guy named David, that wears *Pink Underware* told you to say it.
    Everyone will know who you're talking about then. :D
    I'll drink to THAT!
    Last edited by toppack; 02-25-2009, 07:19 PM.

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by junglelord
    A member named SNOWTANK on another forum is building a RC Caswell Conversion Seaview and asked this question about the bow planes of this peculiar design....
    "I wonder if the fins could be used like a jet aircraft 's flaps where one is down and one is up to allow steep turns. "

    What do you think Mr Merriman?
    Not 'flaps', 'ailerons'. Tell that idiot to stop over-thinking it and build it as I tell 'em, I wear PINK underwear!I wear PINK underwear!I wear PINK underwear!I wear PINK underwear!it!

    David,

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  • toppack
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    I don't know about steep-turns but it should do some great Snap-rolls. :eek:
    Last edited by toppack; 02-25-2009, 09:01 PM.

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  • junglelord
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    A member named SNOWTANK on another forum is building a RC Caswell Conversion Seaview and asked this question about the bow planes of this peculiar design....
    "I wonder if the fins could be used like a jet aircraft 's flaps where one is down and one is up to allow steep turns. "

    What do you think Mr Merriman?

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  • Slats
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    Speaking of yank and bank...

    Have had enormous amounts of fun driving my Alfa in olympic pools at high speed. Throw in some rudder - she rolls a little into the turn , next add some up rear planes - boy does shes kick through the turn. The closest thing I have had to flying a fighter jet underwater...a fun boat all round.

    J

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  • redboat219
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    Do these anhedrals on RC boats exert the same effects as those on real boats?

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  • toppack
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    Ah okay, they are about half way between horizontal and vertical, on that sub anyway?
    Last edited by toppack; 12-21-2008, 03:49 PM.

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  • Nuke Power
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    Yup. Here you can see them on my trumpter seawolf.
    Attached Files

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  • toppack
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    Originally posted by Merriman
    there are fixed roll control stabilizers -- the American 'anhedrals' come to mind).
    David,
    'Anhedrals' are horizontal surfaces that angle down at outer tips, correct?

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  • toppack
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    Thanks for the Info, David

    Wow, snap-roll a Sub! :eek: I don't think I'd want to be onboard during that! :eek:

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by toppack
    There is something I've wondered about Full-scale Subs.
    In modern Subs, Is there a way to 'bank' in a sharp turn, like in aircraft, or can turns only be done in a flat skid?
    Or can they even be turned fast enough to produce a Skid?
    I assume sharp turns are not usually required but I'd think there would be sometime?
    Limiting this discussion to combatants:

    With the exception of the modern SEAWOLF, VIRGINIA, and some modern European boats, no, there are no active roll control surfaces (but there are fixed roll control stabilizers -- the American 'anhedrals' come to mind).

    Anyone want to challenge these assertions?

    The inboard bank in a turn is an artifact of the sails position and forces that structure creates as the angle of attach increases about the yaw axis. Looks neat but is a ship control problem which can mature (as a consequence of 'vortex shedding') into a nasty 'snap-roll'. A very bad, 'depth excursion' can result.

    David,

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