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  • toppack
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    • Nov 2008
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    Installing kit Flags, Crest, Numbers & other Decals

    I was wondering how well kit provided flags and Decals will hold up to being submerged and soaked for long periods of time?
    I suppose they can be sealed with clear paint or something but even that may not last for long? :confused:
    I'd not planned on hand painting all those?
    Last edited by toppack; 12-12-2008, 06:23 PM.
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  • toppack
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    • Nov 2008
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    #2
    Anyone have experience with Decals on Subs?
    Should I get out my small paint brushes?
    Thanks
    Rick L.
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    • toppack
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      • Nov 2008
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      #3
      Surely someone has ideas or comments about using Decals, on RC Subs ???
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      • toppack
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        • Nov 2008
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        #4
        Okay, I think I understand!
        Maybe those that did put decals on their subs don't want to admit that they 'Screwed UP'. :D
        Hey, I can understand that, but we won't laugh at you, promise. ;)
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        • toppack
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          • Nov 2008
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          #5
          Looks like I need to do a test experiment.
          Attach some of those extra signal-flag decals to some painted pieces of plastic.
          Try clear spray paint over one.
          Clear brush on paint over another.
          Dump them in a bucket of water.
          And see how long they last.
          Last edited by toppack; 12-14-2008, 12:55 PM.
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          • toppack
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            • Nov 2008
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            #6
            I did the 'decals under water test' and I'll relate the results for those that may be interested, tho no one seems to be.
            I made 5 test samples.
            2 with no protection and they lifted after short time in water
            1 with some brush on clear varnish, it has survived 1 day in water
            2 with krylon spray, one Matte type & and one Flat type
            They have both survived 1 day

            Results so far is that decals definitely need a complete sealing finish over them ( the thicker the better), but they will last on a sub. :)
            Last edited by toppack; 12-17-2008, 04:52 PM.
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            • toppack
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              • Nov 2008
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              #7
              I tested another spray on paint.
              TopFlite's LustreKote (Flat clear) #TOPR7500, model paint.
              It worked well to seal the test Decal.
              (Survived 1 day under water)
              That's the one I'll be using, since I know it doesn't discolor over time and I found a Full can of it in my Paint locker. :D LOL :D
              Last edited by toppack; 12-18-2008, 03:43 PM.
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              • Nuke Power
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                • Dec 2008
                • 277

                #8
                Have you tried using decal set and then a shot of clear coat. Honestly I have never had an issue. Just remember your boat won't be in the water for days on end.
                Last edited by Kazzer; 12-20-2008, 09:45 PM.

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                • Nuke Power
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  #9
                  Hey if you ever got a question just let me know. I have built and used just about everything Mike sells. I just recently started surfing this forum and i will be sticking around to give my 2 cents regardless if you wanted them or not.

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                  • toppack
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                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1124

                    #10
                    Well, one of the Decals fell off, when I was reinstalling the sail to deck. :( And while trying to reattach decal it fell apart. :mad:
                    Guess I'll be getting out my very small paint brushes again.
                    I had a feeling Decals would Not last long on a Submarine.
                    Last edited by toppack; 01-03-2009, 02:02 PM.
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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 12360

                      #11
                      Originally posted by toppack
                      Well, one of the Decals fell off, when I was reinstalling the sail to deck. :( And while trying to reattach decal it fell apart. :mad:
                      Guess I'll be getting out my very small paint brushes again.
                      I had a feeling Decals would Not last long on a Submarine.
                      You gotta put a clear-coat over 'em.

                      David,
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • toppack
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                        • Nov 2008
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                        #12
                        I did!
                        A good thick coat of TopFlite's LustreKote (Flat clear) #TOPR7500.
                        Which is Good stuff.
                        That's why I was so surprized when it fell off, from just normal handling.
                        Last edited by toppack; 01-03-2009, 07:09 PM.
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                        • toppack
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1124

                          #13
                          Cloth Flags, Ordering

                          I ordered cloth flags for the T-class.
                          I had found this website in UK, that has what I want so I ordered them, but was wondering if there are other sources here in the US, for same quality flags, at a lower shipping cost and get them quicker?
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                          Last edited by toppack; 04-11-2009, 01:40 PM.
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                          • toppack
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1124

                            #14
                            I forgot that Taubman Plans sells Flags also. :rolleyes:
                            Last edited by toppack; 04-11-2009, 02:12 PM.
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                            • Slats
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1776

                              #15
                              Rick I have used both the Flags and Vinyl self adhesive decals that modelflags sells.

                              Whilst I always clear coat a decal - like you get in a model kit, that is applied by separating the backing in water, the modelflags vinyl product (brand BECC) makes the claim you need no overcoat. In fact Trenchants depth numbers went to sea initially with no overcoat and stayed put, as have most depth marks of the same I have applied to targets.....as a rule of thumb I still overcoat these and the sub/ ship anyway.

                              The modelflags shop are top notch people to deal with.
                              The flags are excellent and good quality material.

                              Best
                              J
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