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  • Kazzer
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    • Aug 2008
    • 2848

    Revolutionary New Switch for Compressors




    From the Kevin McLeod stable (KMC Designs), made in Canada, we now have a custom built switch to control our Low Pressure Blowers or Air Pumps.

    No room for a Snort pump and the module to control it in that 2”
    Sub-driver™? The space-saving Mini Pump Controller (MPC) mounts
    directly to the back of a mini Snort pump allowing you to save precious
    WTC volume and simplify installation. Just plug the MPC into your
    receiver and wire the pump power lead to your 6V to 12V battery and
    you’re ready to blow! The MPC also features optical isolation and on-board
    filtering to keep noisy motor currents from returning through your receiver
    and interfering with your signal. In the event of lost radio reception the
    MPC will automatically remove power from the motor and fail-safe to an
    OFF state.

    Here is the LPB without the MPC switch.

    The switch will be marketed separately, or in a kit with the LPB pump and 4' of tubing.

    More on the LPB


    The combination of switch and incredibly small compressor make this the perfect system for those 1:144 scale models. If you intend operating your model in a pool, or where recovery is easy, then there is no need for complicated RCABS or gas, as a fail-safe system is overkill.
    This neat LPB will pump water just as well as it pumps air, so if you submerge below snorkel tip, then it will simply pump water into the ballast tank instead of air, so the balance won't we altered.

    Trim the boat to have the sail just peeking above the waterline with a full ballast tank, then the boat will surface to that position from a deeper dive.

    Normal diving will be at snorkel level, but deeper diving will be made by adjusting the planes when in motion.

    You may well find that forward plane control is totally unnecessary.

    Product will be posted to the Caswell web page shortly.
    Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!
  • toppack
    Rear Admiral
    • Nov 2008
    • 1124

    #2
    Mike,
    Will this Pump/switch kit be available soon?
    Not trying to Rush anyone, just curious?
    I'm thinking about trying one in the VII.
    Rick L.
    --------------------------------------------
    * Asking Questions is a 'Good Thing',
    Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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    • Kazzer
      *********
      • Aug 2008
      • 2848

      #3
      Yes, it will be available in about 2 weeks!
      Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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      • Nuke Power
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 277

        #4
        Im glad you were able to talk Kevin into making these. It would fit pretty nice in my type 7 indeed. Especially nice considering you need to trim ever ounce of fat you can with the 7. Do you have a price you are considering yet.

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        • SteveJ
          Lieutenant
          • Aug 2008
          • 56

          #5
          Any update when the switches will be available?

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          • Kazzer
            *********
            • Aug 2008
            • 2848

            #6
            Originally posted by SteveJ
            Any update when the switches will be available?

            In stock now! But not on the web page yet. I have a son for a webmaster and he takes his own sweet time! (A new wife!) :mad: :rolleyes:

            PM me and I'll do your order manually.
            Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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            • Lance
              Lieutenant, Junior Grade
              • Jan 2009
              • 24

              #7
              The MPC also features optical isolation and on-board
              filtering to keep noisy motor currents from returning through your receiver
              and interfering with your signal.
              Does this mean that we won't need to put capacitors on the motor?

              Lance

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              • Nuke Power
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 277

                #8
                nope they are built in

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                • Lance
                  Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24

                  #9
                  OK, I have soldered the controller to the mini-pump and have another question. Upon testing I found that the controller doesn't work when plugged into the toggle switch (channel 5) of my transmitter, but after pugging into the dial switch (channel 6) it does work.

                  The instructions mention that the switch will work with a signal between 20% to 80% of throw in one direction only. This makes sense with what I'm experiencing since the toggle switch is not variable.

                  I have a Futaba Skysport 6 (6YG-FM) and there is an adjustment for changing the travel of the servos but not for the toggle switch that I can see. Here's the question, is there a way to make the LPB work on the toggle switch?

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12347

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lance
                    OK, I have soldered the controller to the mini-pump and have another question. Upon testing I found that the controller doesn't work when plugged into the toggle switch (channel 5) of my transmitter, but after pugging into the dial switch (channel 6) it does work.

                    The instructions mention that the switch will work with a signal between 20% to 80% of throw in one direction only. This makes sense with what I'm experiencing since the toggle switch is not variable.

                    I have a Futaba Skysport 6 (6YG-FM) and there is an adjustment for changing the travel of the servos but not for the toggle switch that I can see. Here's the question, is there a way to make the LPB work on the toggle switch?
                    Yeah, you open up the transmitter case and put a resister in series with one of the switch poles -- value of the resister to be determined. Do it like this: put a rheostat in there temporarily, and dial it around till the closed toggle-switch actuates the pump, pull the rheostat out of the circuit, measure its resistance, and install a 1/4-watt resister of like value between the toggle-switch and the encoder. If there already is a resistor installed in the switch circuit, then parallel it with the rheostat. The idea is to raise/lower the switch resistance to get the channel-6 (it's either channel-6 or 5, I forget which is the toggle and which is the dial) pulse to the length needed to key the LPB switch circuit.

                    Or do it like this: put both the LPB switch and ballast sub-system servo on channel-4, you'll do this with a Y connector between the receivers channel-4 plug and the servo and Kevin's electronic switch. Trim throw will actuate the LPB. Full throw of the stick will kick in the blow valve. Neat trick.

                    We have Kevin McLeod to thank for this little LPB electronic switch and the nifty switch logic that permits use of two devices on one r/c channel.

                    Them Canadian's!

                    David,
                    Who is John Galt?

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                    • KevinMc
                      Commander
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Hi Lance,

                      I'm sorry to hear that the Skysport's switch isn't adjustable- When I designed this module I wanted to have it useable on a toggle switch or Y'd off the main ballast control channel. Under the latter setup, however, I saw no point in having the pump running while the gas was being vented into the ballast tank so I limited the range over which the pump would turn on. Since the switch on my Tracker III has travel volume adjustment this didn't seem to be a concern. (The one downside in deisgning equipemnt for this hobby is there are so many equipment combinations for people to choose from it's very challenging to find a single solution that works for everything...)

                      If you're comfortable opening up your radio, what David suggests is a viable solution. I believe most radios tend to use 10k pots for their controls, I would think that a 4.7k ohm resistor off the center lead of the switch could do exactly what you're looking for. (Disclaimer- this is a guess on my part, and while I've torn down my fair share of transmitters I don't profess to be an "expert" in their design.)
                      Kevin McLeod - Oscar II driver
                      KMc Designs

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                      • toppack
                        Rear Admiral
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Merriman
                        Or do it like this: put both the LPB switch and ballast sub-system servo on channel-4, you'll do this with a Y connector between the receivers channel-4 plug and the servo and Kevin's electronic switch. Trim throw will actuate the LPB. Full throw of the stick will kick in the blow valve. Neat trick.

                        David,
                        Wow, that is a Neat Trick! I'll drink to THAT!
                        I'll try that, Also! :) That will give me another channel for *Weapons*! :)
                        Last edited by toppack; 02-09-2009, 10:34 AM.
                        Rick L.
                        --------------------------------------------
                        * Asking Questions is a 'Good Thing',
                        Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                        • Lance
                          Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24

                          #13
                          Brilliant! Thanks Dave and Kevin! Since I'm not too confident when it comes to electronics, it's witchcraft to me! :confused: I'll try the Y-connector solution and I just saw one laying around the workbench the other day. Now to find it again!;)

                          Like you Toppack I was wishing for another channel, this solution will solve that. I'll make mine operate the manta fin and nose lights.:cool:

                          Lance
                          Last edited by Lance; 02-09-2009, 12:04 PM.

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                          • toppack
                            Rear Admiral
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1124

                            #14
                            Lance,
                            I Don't think the Y-connector setup will work very well for 2 different functions like DPs and lights? You will not be able to control them separately? Lights will be going off&on when opeating the bow DPs. But I guess that's okay if there are no other options?
                            The vent/blow functions are a unique situation where it will work, since the 2 are similar and compliment each other, and it's okay to operate them both at the same time, with no problems if set up correctly.
                            The Y-connector setup is usually used when 2 servos need to be coordinated together like the elivator and rudder of a slow flying RC aircraft, that does not have alirons and has 2-channel reciever, to make coordinated banking turns. And do not need to be controled separately.
                            Last edited by toppack; 02-09-2009, 02:18 PM.
                            Rick L.
                            --------------------------------------------
                            * Asking Questions is a 'Good Thing',
                            Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                            • Lance
                              Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24

                              #15
                              Toppack,
                              If I understand David correctly, I will remove the LPB pump off of the toggle switch (channel 5) and add it with a y-connector to the ballast sub-system servo on channel 4. That will free up the toggle switch for the lights. The forward and rear dive planes operate on channel 6. Let me know if I got it wrong.

                              Lance

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