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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by Subculture
    What’s the shelf life like of these 2k urethanes?
    Before I launch into an answer to your question, Andy, I want to publicly express my admiration and appreciation for your years of positive and most constructive inputs within the pages of these forums. It was in fact you who directed us to this (knew to me) source of 2K acrylic urethane base and clear coats. For that, thank you so, so much, my friend.

    Shelf life on this stuff if unopened is decades if stored in a cold environment. Pot-life of mixed paint and clear-coat at room temperature is about four-hours.

    Andy!... you da man!!!!!

    David
    Old Dog, New Tricks (if trained properly)

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  • Subculture
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    What’s the shelf life like of these 2k urethanes?

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    I'm just about done with the last of my stash of DuPont ChromaColor and ChromaClear automotive paints and clear-coat. They stop producing the stuff a decade ago.

    So, I got to the internet and found that an outfit called, 'the Restoration Store' produces equivalent two-part (two-pack, 2K) acrylic urethane (AU, duh!) based color and clear coat systems. About five-hundred bucks later, and D&E Miniatures is back in the game.

    And just in time to get some model submarines painted up and ready for this years SubFest at the Red Clay Resort, Cohutta, Georgia. That event going down in less than a month.

    All you need in the way of paint is black, white, the three primary colors, clear-coat, flattening agent, the appropriate activator/catalyst/hardener, and thinner/solvent/reducer.

    With a proper 'color wheel' you can mix any color needed from the blue, yellow and red primaries.





    Nowadays the Navy paints its submarines basic black. You don't; we paint our toy submarines a very dark gray, to account for 'scale effect'.

    Here I'm preparing the dark, dark gray for black, and a dark 'haze gray' for the Pacific scheme often applied to boats operating during the cold war. Horizontal surfaces black; the vertical surfaces dark gray. This scheme will be applied to the WEBSTER.



    Penciling in the black-red demarcation lines prior to masking off the anti-foul red portions of the hulls.











    The 1/96 WEBSTER, KILO, and BLUEBACK all masked off and ready for black paint.





    Busy applying 'rust' to the Bronco 1/35 Type-23 kit. Hull's done and some of the rust has to be toned down a bit. Still have the sail to dirty up. Trying to get it ready for presentation at an IPMS meeting this Friday.







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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by Das Boot
    Were the bow planes a success or failure?
    If you stood watches on the planes, they were a roaring success. If you were from the wardroom, they were a noise source and a liability to the boat's survival should things get out of hand. At speed they clanked a bit which not only partially masked our own passive gear but put out a big fat 'kick me hard' sign on our backside for all to hear -- bad ju-ju. As soon as the boat went to Groton for her yard-period the planes were put back on the sail where they belonged.

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  • Das Boot
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    Were the bow planes a success or failure?

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  • wlambing
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    Yes, ALL of the US missile submarines received the "Buick Roadmaster" launchers through various overhaul and Selected Refit Availabilities through the 1970s, into the 1980s. Control panel was located on the Conn for operation by the OOD. HWSNBN- :P

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by redboat219
    Did the Lafayette class have external countermeasure launchers?
    Just the two 3" signal ejectors. One in the bow compartment (torpedo room, where I was assigned most patrols) and one back in the engine room. The signal-ejectors were used to launch smokes, rockets, bathythermograph bodies, and evasion devices (Alka-Seltzer pucks and adaptive sound repeaters).

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  • redboat219
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    Did the Lafayette class have external countermeasure launchers?

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by Albacore 569
    Excellent clear 'in close' photos as usual David. You answere dmy questio too...'annealed .020” diameter K&S brass wire' 0.20 diameter. .Thank you.

    Are any 1/96 hulls of this class still around if I decide ot build a static model and donate to the Vallejo Museum?

    Steven
    Got my hull from Scale Shipyard three decades ago. Gee... I don't know if Lee is even alive. A very nice kit: good GRP layup and the resin parts were bubble free and of good form.
































    David

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  • Albacore 569
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    Excellent clear 'in close' photos as usual David. You answere dmy questio too...'annealed .020” diameter K&S brass wire' 0.20 diameter. .Thank you.

    Are any 1/96 hulls of this class still around if I decide ot build a static model and donate to the Vallejo Museum?

    Steven
    Last edited by Albacore 569; 08-12-2023, 01:28 AM.

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  • Fishb0y
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    I keep seeing all this artistry you put forth to recreate the boat in her original beauty! Then I remember all the mental pain and frustration this same boat caused when I was a baby Nuke...

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    This big model demanded all the little details I could apply to it. That included the many ladder rungs that ran up from the waterline to the top of the sail. It's the small stuff that turns a toy into a proper display piece.



    Some of the documentation and layout tools used to position the ladder rung stem holes. The two rather faded color photos were taken by me of the boat during one of her re-fits in Guam, as we worked the boat up for another patrol.

    ... Hell, I snapped those over a half-century ago. Sobering.





    To the left are raw ladder rung blanks, still in the round. To the right are properly flattened ladder rungs ready for installation onto the model. These were made from annealed .020” diameter K&S brass wire.





    A hand-press was used to flatten the annealed brass rung blanks.





    This length of plastic strip was used to set, exactly, the height of the rungs off the surface of the models sail and superstructure.



    The drafting compass insured equal vertical spacing between rungs and the temporary strip of masking tape insured correct horizontal spacing between the holes that would secure the stems of each ladder rung.



    The moto-tool equipped with a .020” diameter bit drilling holes that will accommodate, via an interferrence fit, the stems of the ladder rungs.



    Note the use of a modified set of pliers here – they started life as a common needle-nose type but were truncated and the tips ground back to better hold a rung yet not make contact with adjacent rungs as a rung was installed/removed from the sail and superstructure.



    All of the ladder rungs are tight friction fits to the sail and superstructure, so no glue is required to retain them in place. This permits me to now remove the rungs and carry on with the painting and weathering of the model without the rungs getting in the way. The rungs will be painted separately and installed before the final flattened clear-coat goes down.




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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by wlambing
    David, You looking for the Scot or the Ayn Rand character? ;)
    Could be, Bill.

    But what really blows up my skirt is the purity of purpose, and sense of self of her Howard Roark, and Hank Rearden characters. True representatives of the best characteristics of man; virtues that could only be grown in the America of years past (not today). Today, the great American experiment has failed. Socialism has won (the tool of our defeat: regulations and no term limits).



    David
    John Galt, call your office...
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  • wlambing
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    David, You looking for the Scot or the Ayn Rand character? ;)

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    It's often the 'little things' that makes an otherwise fair model to become an interesting and appreciated display. Little things like the projecting hinge pins employed to permit travel of the three-piece missile tube muzzle hatch fairings.







    Missile tube fairing hatch hinge securing brackets were represented by engraved rectangular shapes scribed in with the aid of this purpose built stencil.





    Stretching sprue to derive the correct diameter, round of section fairing hinges.



    I found that the ideal hinge diameter was .015”. So, with the aid of a micrometer I found those lengths of stretched sprue that fit the bill and cut them away for later chopping to length.



    A very useful tool for slicing thin, soft plastic sheet and extruded shapes is this commercially available 'chopper'. Here I'm using it to cut to length stretched sprue missile tube fairing hinges. Uniformity of length is assured through the use of a masking-tape fence.





    I used a bit of spit to hold a 'hinge' piece at the pointy end of a paint-brush handle. Just enough stick to permit me to transfer a hinge from the chopper to the engraved line of a missile tube hatch fairing engraved line.



    A very small drop of CA was placed on the engraved line and a hinge placed into position and pressed down hard with a finger for about five-seconds – long enough for the glue to take hold.



    Careful blade scraping and sanding with #600 around the slightly raised hinges cleaned up any excess glue. Here I'm chasing out sanding dust from the engravings with a stiff paint-brush.

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